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12/02/12 at 11:15:19
 
I doubt that this has ever been asked. I'd like to silence my stock muffler even more than it is. How would I do that? I thought about stuffing steel wool in it, but it would only blow out. Unless there is way to keep it in. Is it a good or bad idea?
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Reply #1 - 12/02/12 at 11:36:41
 
You could stuff it in ahead of the baffle (the muffler input end), but exhaust is corrosive and would rust the steel wool out pretty quickly.   It would be a neat experiment to see if a nearly silent muffler could be designed tho.   A single cylinder is probably hardest because its "pulsed" nature, over a say, a 12 or 16 cylinder motor where the exhaust pulses are naturally smoothed out a bit.
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Reply #2 - 12/02/12 at 11:57:11
 
I link this mod not as a solution but so you'll have some insight to the internals of the stock pipe.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1268121565
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Reply #3 - 12/02/12 at 12:10:38
 
You might try a waffle baffle in the pipe, in front of the muffler?...
PS... (waffle baffle... I just made that up)...  Huh...

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Reply #4 - 12/02/12 at 12:15:45
 
Good one, my man.
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Reply #5 - 12/02/12 at 12:59:32
 
How would you know its working?   Huh
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Reply #6 - 12/02/12 at 14:57:19
 
The stock muffler is about as quiet as you can get a 650cc single.  To make one that would be quieter, you would have to make a larger container, or put more restrictions in the stock muffler.

I find either of those options unacceptable.  Both would reduce power, and this bike, when stock, is not all that powerful.

Why do you want to do this?
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Reply #7 - 12/02/12 at 15:20:45
 
Why not. Just to see if it could be done. Just going the opposite of loud I think would be interesting. If they had an electric bike that wasn't ugly, looked like a normal bike, was cheap enough, went 250 miles on a charge and did 100MPH I'd get one.
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Reply #8 - 12/02/12 at 15:31:02
 
Stealth mode....  maybe it will catch on...

It's such a noisy world... Huh...
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Reply #9 - 12/02/12 at 15:42:14
 

The only "silent" vehicle I have ever seen or owned was a first generation Acura Legend -- it literally made no noise or vibration at idle at all when it was new.   Seriously, none.

To do this required a 4 part all stainless steel cat and muffler system that was articled about at the time in the car rags as "technically innovative".

It cancelled pulses from one bank against the other intentionally in a dual header symphony.  The engine firing order and header lengths were tweeked to provide matching complementary pulses at the first mix pre-muffler -- then the remainder blended flow was run through a cat and a post cat muffler, then a long pipe and the final end of car muffler where things were crossed repeatedly again and again.

No Acura was ever built as good as that one was ever again, as that car was created as Hiro Honda's lasting legacy to himself and to the company he had built.  

He also built the Acura NSX at the same time to show as his sports car legacy  (used the exact same engine except had fancy variable valve timing heads).  And the NSX was practically silent around town as well, but screamed and howled when you opened it up like any sports car should.

Both cars were really something at the time, kinda ho hum nowdays, but back then they were the cat's meow.   Both had six cylinder pulses to tune with, and you only have the one.



All you can do is try to mute the single pulse flow that you have.

You have limited run length to do that in,  so are doomed somewhat by your restricted length and the great strength of your Savage pulses.
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Reply #10 - 12/02/12 at 15:50:44
 
BOBD wrote on 12/02/12 at 15:20:45:
Why not. Just to see if it could be done. Just going the opposite of loud I think would be interesting. If they had an electric bike that wasn't ugly, looked like a normal bike, was cheap enough, went 250 miles on a charge and did 100MPH I'd get one.



I asked you first.  I was asking a question, not making a statement.
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Reply #11 - 12/03/12 at 00:51:15
 
Buy a different bike. This one clearly isn't for you.

Adding to Oldfeller's post - the NSX was a Ferarri beater when it debuted in 1990. The entire world had to play catch-up when that thing hit the market.
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Reply #12 - 12/03/12 at 06:36:29
 
Cavi Mike wrote on 12/03/12 at 00:51:15:
Buy a different bike. This one clearly isn't for you.



If looking for a silent bike, get a Gold Wing or an electric.  This bike makes enough mechanical noise not counting the exhaust that you'd be heard a block away.

On a RYCA bike, the honk coming through the carb is significant as well.

If you do pursue making the thing quieter, you'll have to use a larger muffler (physically) and additional sound dampening on the intake side (larger air box).  

It'll be an interesting project.  Keep us posted.
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Reply #13 - 12/03/12 at 06:46:11
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/02/12 at 12:10:38:
You might try a waffle baffle in the pipe, in front of the muffler?...
PS... (waffle baffle... I just made that up)...  Huh...

http://www.whitedogbikes.com/ccp51/media/images/product_category/Remove_Exhau...


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Reply #14 - 12/03/12 at 06:56:01
 
On some 4 stroke singles I have seen this new pipe added onto the header pipe......I have no idea why.  Does it somehow add power - or cut down on noise?  I suppose it helps to dampen the pulses and smooth the flow.......not sure if adding one to a Savage could help to cut down on the "THUMP, THUMP, THUMP".  My guess is that if you make the exhaust too quiet.....you will really start to notice the intake noise, ticking valve train, whining gearbox and belt, etc.

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