According to Routy, the black helicopter that just dropped the big black net over top of you isn't real, nor are the results from your experiment.

The fact your bowl gas level was not fluctuating up & down, was always higher, was much more constantly & evenly held at the "as designed" gas level had nothing to do with your bike running better.

That is the same sort of silly stuff Raptor petcock people report all the time when they first change over, so obviously it must be imaginary.

Note, them crazy Raptor folks still have a reserve function and you do not.  So, your imagination isn't as good as theirs ....

Is it clear?

That was close.

First I don't imagine I have much to imagine when it comes to imagining things about my bike, I imagine, so I'll just imagine you didn't mean that, right?
But that doesn't address what I observed, as when my bike starts to starve it pops and farts and plays the wrong domino. Why does it cough, spurt, and act like a shunned woman with me riding its back at times like these if it ain't gas?

I imagine you have an answer, yes?

Well....I just made money by switching to a Raptor.

I paid $ 16.00 or so for the Raptor.......I just sold my stock petcock on eBay for $ 25.46.

Is that wrong?  It is a working stock petcock!

 
Every time my bike goes on reserve it sputters and pops and farts some, then I roll the Raptor over to Reserve and it instantly stops ....  This tells me its time to go buy some gas at the little cheapie quick pick down the road from my neighborhood.   It's like magical !!

Them Raptors are so boring, I always have to put in 2.4 gallons of gas .... same old stuff every single time.

They remind me of Linux computers, they do !!

Ok, in this thread EVERYBODY is both paranoid and delusional.  

Routy will be pleased.



Must be them Arizona peote buttons ...

I'd like to compare the answers to these questions:

-- How many people have had any kind of fuel delivery problem associated with stock petcock that was due to a malfunction of the petcock, its vacuum connection, or any other parts peculiar to the stock petcock?  IOW,.. how many times has a bike run poorly or stop running altogether because of the stock fuel delivery system? (not including operator error)

-- How many people have had any kind of fuel delivery problem associated with a Raptor petcock installed in place of a stock petcock that was due to a malfunction of the Raptor petcock?  (not including operator error, but including install mistakes)

It would just be interesting to know, with all the oratorical/rhetorical indicia aside, what kind of real world problems are out there with Savage fuel systems associated with the two petcocks.

My suspicion is that once a Raptor is installed properly, it very rarely malfunctions, assuming the operator selects fuel off/fuel on/reserve correctly.

While I have had no trouble with the Savage petcock, or, for that matter, a vacuum-operated petcock on ANY bike I have ever had, it seems just from all the blather here that there are problems of one sort or another.

Gyrobob wrote on 11/08/12 at 04:22:36:




The problem with any poll that requires the reader to:

1) limit his responding to only respond if he meets a certain sub group criteria and NOT RESPOND if he doesn't

2) Understand the detailed single point that is being polled and only respond accordingly ...

.... have both been very unsuccessful.  People don't read before clicking and once the page rolls the rules are not available any more anyway.

A smart pollster designs a simplistic poll that ranks the responses in such a way that the data he wants can be extracted painlessly from the response categories themselves using simple math.

A "meatball guesstimation" of what you asked can be extracted from the current polling categories.


Vac petcock fail doesn't exist for me    1
My bike is brand new and I am fine     1
My bike is not new and I don't care     1
My old bike and I are unconcerned      4
I'm aware -- I watch my petcock         11
Took my vac unit off proactively          7


Mine has stumbled, but still waiting     4
Raptored, my bike heavily modified    15            If you fiddle with the air filter system, you will Raptor fairly quickly as
                                                                                                   you lose functional system vac levels when you uncork your input air system)

19/44 = 43%

You see, I already checked the issues/no issues thing to see if the poll is relatively consistent with the results from the last poll  
(and it is, been running around 50% last two times we did a data providing poll).

We used to run around 1/3 1/3 1/3  (Serowbot's Axiom  1/3 have had issues, 1/3 will have issues and 1/3 will never have issues) but we have enough age on the group now that some of the second 1/3 are rolling into the real category now.

And, you will notice that I EXCLUDED the pre-emptive folks from the failed category and counted them in the no issues side of things, as I am an honest pollster unlike many that worked this past election (on both sides).