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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	bad camchain? 10/17/12 at 11:44:20 Hello! such a thing ... Here's the chain I bought in my time with her this trouble was ... I went on it about 12000km. today looked-as she stretched nearly to the limit. can someone else used the chain? tell impressions.
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Reply #1 - 10/17/12 at 11:50:21

Thats about 1/2 the service life of a typical OEM chain,
If you can get a Verslagen mod on it, you can ride some more. If you know a welder, its not hard to do that part. His tensioners are also modded so they cant come apart, which is a Major plus, but, freight to you may be an issue, I dont know,,

I wouldnt be too happy about a timing chain with a link in it,,but it sure would make installation a snap,,

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: bad camchain? Reply #2 - 10/17/12 at 14:03:09 When you replaced it, did you replace the rear guide aka tensioner? A new one will push in the plunger about 3 to 4mm.
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Reply #3 - 10/17/12 at 21:18:04

thank you guys! my translator is not very well translated into Russian.
in General when I installed the NEW camchain, I measured the output rod tensioner . I had 11мм. now output rod tensioner is 20mm.
Yes I made myself a Verslagen's mod. and now moved the rear Shoe of camchain to a new location . thank you Verslagen for the idea .
Verslagen,-"aka tensioner"-
what is it? I can show you something in the pictures

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: bad camchain? Reply #4 - 10/17/12 at 21:44:43 I have no idea what Verslagen means, but that was his name long before he came up with the idea to weld a tab on the tensioner,. Sure, man, post some pics up,, its always fun lookin in the guts of someones motor.
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Reply #5 - 10/17/12 at 21:51:27

wambr wrote on 10/17/12 at 21:18:04:

thank you guys! my translator is not very well translated into Russian.
in General when I installed the NEW camchain, I measured the output rod tensioner . I had 11мм. now output rod tensioner is 20mm.
Yes I made myself a Verslagen's mod. and now moved the rear Shoe of camchain to a new location . thank you Verslagen for the idea .
Verslagen,-"aka tensioner"-
what is it? I can show you something in the pictures

Rear guide "also known as" Tensioner

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: bad camchain? Reply #6 - 10/17/12 at 22:00:39 Yea,, they call the rear guide the tensioner,, & yea, It does soak up some slack,, but dang,, I cant help but call the part with the spring in it the tensioner.
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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: bad camchain? Reply #7 - 10/17/12 at 22:01:05 thank you! I understand.. when I looked at it, it seemed normal, with no signs of wear or damage...
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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: bad camchain? Reply #8 - 10/17/12 at 22:04:58 now, when I moved aka tensioner on the main site, the engine is a completely different... without the banging and noise.. I just couldn't understand why my engine so much noise? timing chain replaced by the not so long ago(in the beginning of the season)...and I just didn't think that she may be worn out...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: bad camchain? Reply #9 - 10/17/12 at 22:10:49 How many millimeters is the tube extended?
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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: bad camchain? Reply #10 - 10/17/12 at 22:15:41 now , after I moved to a new place, the output of stem tensioner was about 3-5 mm or rather don't remember...did yesterday late in the evening. the distance between the branches of a camchain approximately 20-25mm...
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Reply #11 - 10/17/12 at 22:20:57

Let me try again.

There is the part that the cam chain guide bolts to. It has a tube with ratchet teeth on it & that tube has a spring pushing it out to take the slack out of the chain. From the end of the housing the tube goes into to the end of the machining ON that tube can only be something around 20 mm before it starts being dangerous. ( I Hope I am remembering that correctly. If Im wrong there, someone please set me right)

That picture you were talking about might be a good thing,

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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: bad camchain? Reply #12 - 10/17/12 at 22:46:13 first, evening when I took off the right side cover of the engine it is something like this. then, it was so.
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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: bad camchain? Reply #13 - 10/17/12 at 22:47:28 get better... at first it looked as weak timing chain
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: bad camchain? Reply #14 - 10/17/12 at 22:57:44 wambr wrote on 10/17/12 at 22:46:13: first, evening when I took off the right side cover of the engine it is something like this. Cam_Chain_Tensioner_1.jpg then, it was so. http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/CamChainClub/verslavy.jpg This is very good looking.
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