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Pretty compelling evidence for anyone
10/02/12 at 09:10:51
 
So many points are just Inarguable.


The few that are do not make those that arent suddenly disappear.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaezM0h5BdM&feature=relmfu

& Yea, I watced it all,, If you want to pop in to about the 40 minute mark,, okay,, but I recommend it front to back.
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Reply #1 - 10/02/12 at 10:23:42
 
This guy seems to have disproved Galileo, and the laws of physics... in his quest to prove a conspiracy...
Grin Grin Grin...

Rather than dispute the evidence... consider the logic...
- "They" managed to get two planes to hit the buildings , heavily laden with fuel...  Why, after that, would they need to blow the buildings up?...
- If they wanted to blow it up, and make it look like an accident,... why bother to make a controlled demolition?...

Conspiracy logic,.. requires that you believe the conspirators went to the trouble of staging an accident,.. and then purposefully made it look intentional...
This defies logic... Machiavellian, pretzel logic...

Not even a believable Hollywood movie plot... Huh...



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Reply #2 - 10/02/12 at 11:35:16
 
& you explain the exact perfect timing of failure thruout the structure how? The incredible heat in the ground how? Youre too quickly dismissing a preponderance of evidence.,
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Reply #3 - 10/02/12 at 11:53:16
 
No, I'm not... this is not evidence.. it is speculation...

This guy, speculated his way into defying the laws of physics...

Evidence,.. would have been some det cord, or surveillance video of crews installing demolition charges,.... or if one of the planes had missed and the building blew up anyway...
Controlled demolitions require cutting, drilling, ripping down drywall, sandbags for directing blast, setting of charges, wiring, timers,... days or weeks of prep by crews of men... and nobody saw these people, or caught them on security video... in multiple buildings...
All this,.. in buildings that were being used daily by 10,000 or more people.. including tourists taking photos and videos...
Yet no evidence... Nobody got a shot of these preparations taking place or complained of drilling or hammering in the preceding days...
Not plausible...


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Reply #4 - 10/02/12 at 13:54:23
 
& how do you explain them falling so quickly?
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Reply #5 - 10/02/12 at 14:23:25
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/02/12 at 13:54:23:
& how do you explain them falling so quickly?



gravity, it actually explains a lot of your questions
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Reply #6 - 10/02/12 at 14:43:44
 
I wouldn't expect one to fall slowly... Huh...

... but if one did,... conspiracy theorists would find that to be evidential...
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Reply #7 - 10/02/12 at 16:02:23
 
Why wouldnt it fall slowly? & How dismissive of you to say such a thing..

It was loaded with Huge Steel, & the fire wasnt fully consuming it, none of them,. & the heat in the ground, shown to us by NASA, was higher than the heat that would be created by a fire fueled by jet fuel, which would have burned off in a matter of hours max, & so much of it consumed inb the fireballs when the planes hit,

& what of the tiny spheres in the dust? The kind of spheres made by the metal melting product created when aluminum & iron oxide are mixed? Im having a "Moment" & cant remember the name,, dangitt,,
This video didnt even mention them,,

How do buildings fall thru the greatest point of resistance in symmetrical collapse, when they are damaged asymmetrically?
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Reply #9 - 10/02/12 at 17:04:03
 
Until someone can address the questions I have in a rational & reasonable manner, no. Im not that interested.
The time required to fall indicate that the structure was dismantled.
Fire is not equally spread & even if it was, the structure isnt equally strong thru-out, so, in order to make it all fall at the same time, it would have to be heated perfectly in every place in the building, & even THEN, soft metal doesnt snap, it bends, there is nothing about this that meets the requirements to make sense..

&, I have to admit, I am getting just a little tired of the demeaning attitude. I am simply offering up what I believe to be thot provoking evidence, things I see as solid reason to ask questions & instead of those things being discussed in a reasonable & friendly, respectable manner, I am being subjected to ridicule. Thats not how we act here, guys.

Obvious facts to me that I cant ignore are
Asymmetrical damage creates symmetrical collapse.
Heat days after the fires are out well above temps attainable by burning offices.
How did the cement manage to turn to dust?
IF one floor fell & knocked the floor below it off its mounts, then, by definition, didnt it Strip that floor away from the vertical supports? Wouldnt that leave spires standing?
Instead of blindly attacking me for having questions, please, show me where those questions are amply answered..
& why are there in excess of 1,500 architects & engineers who agree with me?
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Reply #10 - 10/02/12 at 17:23:51
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/02/12 at 17:04:03:
The time required to fall indicate that the structure was dismantled.


... and that is the hole in the theory...
Who, what, when, where, and how...  no evidence...

Unless they can freeze time... I don't see that happening... Huh...
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Reply #11 - 10/02/12 at 17:34:18
 
I have a good youtube video also:
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Reply #12 - 10/02/12 at 17:49:07
 
Unless someone can explain how a structure so completely failed as to allow such a short time to fall, then something Other than the official story has to be the answer. What than answer is may never be known, since there was no real investigation. What we are left with is simply what we know about steel, what we know about fire & what we saw. & it just doesnt add up. For such a tall structure to Not fall over? Thats beyond amazing, 2 of them? & the one that fell first was the 2nd one hit, & the Top 23 floors on it were starting to slip to the side.

It just doesnt make sense, heat was insufficient to cause collapse, at least, Calculated heat, based on the fuel sources, is insufficient to destroy a structure like that, Black Smoke,, that says fuel rich/insufficient O2 to get a clean, hot fire,
Nano Thermite,, & access was there. Crews were doing elevator upgrades, people reported seeing crews in the building. There is simply more to this than the people are supposed to know.,.
Why, OHHH Why, were military planes not all over these hijacked airliners?

& what of the warnings spoken of in the video?

Just how did the Passports manage to survive & the cockpit/flight data recorders not?

REally, fellas, are you really satisfied with the story we got? Dont ya have just some little tingle in yer gut tellin ya,, Man,, I dunno,, somethin smells a little fishy here..

This guy buys the lease for 100 mil down, insures it against terror attacks & LO & Be Hold! Terror attack!

& what about the 1200% jump in shorts on the companies involved?
& the Bush coming out & saying he didnt think knowing who placed those bets would actually help in solving the crime,, But, if ya watch the video, you see one guy accused, ( No substantiation, so, its just an accusation) who then gets a way cush job..

Guys,, Im beggin ya,, youve seen me here for years, please dont dismiss me as an idiot,consider what Im saying. Study it.,not for me, for you,. Because I VERY strongly believe that 9/11 was an inside job.
& Ohh how coincidentally it came down, not long after one of the PNAC guys stated we Need a New Pearl Harbor.

Months prior, Cheney has them change the rules on How to dispatch fighters on hijacks, then, after 9/11, it reverts back to how it had been for decades,.
Please dont allow a belief that "No one would or could do that" from allowing you to see the things that simply do not fit with logic & reason,
Metal doesnt behave that way,,
Get a torch & heat some up.. it doesnt go from strong & holding the load to weak & unable to in a split second, it weakens & bends.
Structures are Over Built. Steel is selected to hold multiples of the calculated loads in buildings like that.
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Reply #13 - 10/02/12 at 18:18:38
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/02/12 at 17:49:07:
Months prior, Cheney has them change the rules on How to dispatch fighters on hijacks, then, after 9/11, it reverts back to how it had been for decades,.


Yes correct, Cheney was the devil and the president of the united states. See thanks for proving my point.

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Reply #14 - 10/02/12 at 18:30:54
 
I'm no Bush/Cheney fan,.. everybody knows that...

... but JOG,.. did you watch the clips Lost posted?...

No matter what the theories,.. you must explain how they did controlled demolition without the explosions making any noise...
Impossible... case closed.. seriously...
Explosions make noise...

Watch the video... controlled demo's make noise...
The towers didn't...
You cannot look that fact in face, and still believe that theory...
Just not possible...
JOG,.. you look for conclusive proof... there it is... it's time to let this one go...  there were a thousand cameras on those towers and none recorded the sound of sequential explosions...

Thanks, Lost...  I hadn't even thought about the noise...
That is conclusive proof... no further debunking necessary...

... and Bush n' Cheney were the devil, anyway... Huh...
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