I'm trying to decide between the Jardine and the Dyna  or drilling my stock exhaust. I want my bike loud but not unable to hear anything else loud. The issue is that I also want a lower pitch too and I've heard the Jardine doesn't do that too well.

I have searched but haven't really found a great comparison between the too. what is the difference in pitch and loudness between the two and the stock muffler.

Well, I'd drill your stock exhaust first since that's essentially free.    If you don't like it, no harm done.  (You may have to adjust the fuel/air mix...check the tech section for a great post on that.)  I drilled mine (4 holes 1/2" diameter), and it was a little louder and a little deeper....didn't sound like I was riding a sewing machine anymore.    However, because of the internal baffles, the stock exhaust drilled has this VW Beetle-ish "ping" to the exhaust note, which I didn't like.

If you want to hear what it sounds like with nothing, take the header pipe loose and rev it a few times.  Now that's LOUD.  Quite surprisingly obnoxiously loud.  I'd say the stock exhaust cuts out 90% of the sound...stock exhaust mod maybe cuts 70-80% of the volume...the Jardine prob only cuts maybe 30-40% of the volume (it's loud, but not as loud as no pipe at all).  The Jardine tone is very *percussive*...that's the best word I can think of to describe it. You can definitely hear it's echoes when you go under an overpass, for instance.

I don't know about the Dyna's, but lots of folks really seem to really like them.

Dave

So I know this is probably in the tech section but since everyones talking about exhausts, what is the diameter on the stock exhaust?

would this be a good fit?   http://www.amazon.com/Emgo-Shorty-Universal-Motorcycle-Muffler/dp/B003NQAJPY/...

Anyone have any experience with emgo?  the price looks right  

I've been very happy with my MAC muffler.  It appears they've added a slash-cut variety since I bought mine.  At that time, they only had the taper tip for the LS650.

http://www.macperformance.com/Savage-650_c160.htm

However, as pointed out already, the Dyna is definitely less expensive.  It's also a bit quieter/mellower than the MAC, though only a bit.

Savage_Rob wrote on 09/26/12 at 13:48:07:


How does this one sound pitch and volume wise?

tonewheelmonster wrote on 09/25/12 at 18:58:22:


I bet it is rediculously loud and lawnmowery, and probably sounds like an obnoxious 4 stroke quad.

I just had this one installed on my bike.

It looks great, It is much louder at idle, and taking off, and enough to annoy people in town. When you take an exit ramp off the highway that's where this thing really sounds cool.
I don't know if it is any deeper than stock sound, probably about the same tone, but just way more obnoxious, but definately not the most obnoxious I have heard. It is about 28 inches long and comes out just past my back brake arm.
So based off that I would imagine not only would anything smaller be way more rediculously obnoxious, but also pretty harsh on your own ears being it will be closer to them because it is physically smaller. Mine is also muffled some to my own ears by saddle bags.

Come to think of it, tone wise it sort of sounds like an old 12hp riding mower I had with a rotted muffler. It is definately louder though, and slightly more refined, but not much.

By the way anything other than stock is going to require a pice inbetween the end of the headpipe and the muffler or modifiying the headpipe to get a decent angle, so it is not a matter of does the muffler fit the headpipe.

Steer clear of Emgo mufflers if you actually like chrome. They are plated in the softest grade you can find, and don't have a proper copper - nickel- chrome job. They scratch, they rust, they rot out. If you like the style but could not care less about the chrome, buy one and paint it with bbq paint. The set up on mine is at least 12 years old and has not rusted through yet. The stock muffler was rotted out in 6 months (replaced under warranty the first time, with aftermarket stuff the second time). Tone will change pretty quickly, the packing is way yonder the wrong side of low quality.

Buy a MAC or an HD Dyna take off. Cheaper in the long run, they'll outlast a low end import unit by several years.

grungeant wrote on 09/28/12 at 08:51:35:



Well.....If I had a bunch of money.......It sure would be cool to get one of these made.  I am guessing they would be loud as they use stainless millings they call "scrubble" as the packing......but it sure would be pretty if you had it buffed to a stainless shine.
http://www.burnsstainless.com/megaphone-muffler.aspx