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Halvors O2 tuning
08/27/12 at 07:33:31
 
Tired of tuning and guessing, I mounted a O2 meter. It is fantastic, I can not take my eyes off it when driving. It gives very clear answers to my carb tuning. I will share a video and my tuning data here. Maybee it can  help others.

What I have learned today is that the mixture screw doesnt affect the other circuits much (mostly engine braking and idle mix), and that the white spacer might be inserted again. My main jet was way to lean, and the cruising O2% was a bit rich and outside optimum.



Specs:      Opened dyna muffler (app 40% light opening in the wall), home made angeled connection fro header-muffler, KN kone air filter                  
                       
     Mix      Pilot      Main      Spacer
Carb settings      1/2 CCW      52,5      150      3 washers
Results o2%                        
Idle      10,50 %                  
Crusing      11 %                  
Engine braking when crusing      16 %                  
Half throttle      14-16%      (Optimum)            
3/4 throttle      18 %                  
Full throttle      20 %                  
Full throttle+ high rev      Over 20%      (out of range)      

I think about trying bigger main and replace the white spacer.

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Re: Halvors O2 tuning
Reply #1 - 08/27/12 at 08:39:25
 
I am glad to know that this works.....I am about 2 weeks away from trying it myself.  I had a O2 gauge sitting in my toolbox from a previous project - but no O2 sensor.  Yesterday I ordered the O2 bungs, and a single wire Oxygen sensor to adapt this to the Savage.

Do you remember what ID pipe size is needed to slide over the stock header pipe?
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Reply #2 - 08/27/12 at 08:49:29
 
Dave, if i remember correctly the stock header inlet is 1.56 " outside dia.
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Re: Halvors O2 tuning
Reply #3 - 08/27/12 at 09:03:46
 
Halvor wrote on 08/27/12 at 07:33:31:
I think about trying bigger main and replace the white spacer.


Doesn't rich mean smaller main?
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Reply #4 - 08/27/12 at 10:34:54
 
verslagen1 wrote on 08/27/12 at 09:03:46:
Halvor wrote on 08/27/12 at 07:33:31:
I think about trying bigger main and replace the white spacer.


Doesn't rich mean smaller main?

If you're at over 20:1 at WOT then it should be too lean. If that's what 20% means.
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Reply #5 - 08/27/12 at 12:02:31
 
Yes, it is Lean from half to full throttle. I will try a 155 main. At crucing it is slightly rich, therefore I concider putting back he original white spacer on the needle. I have 3 washers now= 1/2 spacer. I do not know how sensible it is for changes. I will be back with results.

Between lean and rich its an area with optimal mix. It is optimal when driving at highway speed. I guess the circuts meets each other.

Heres the equipment. App. 100 dollars for complete system.

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Reply #6 - 08/27/12 at 12:09:12
 
O2 sensor - a 1994 chevy cavalier one works good. Its a single wire part. I used ti in my GS like 13 years ago then in my eliminator.

The savage may run too cold for that atleast @ the exhaust where you fit it. It needs temperature to be functional.
The header wrap may work on the thing, but you could also try the ones fitted with heater coild.

I thought it puts out DC voltage, under 1/2 volt is lean, over 1/2 is rich ? How did you get it to say in a %
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Reply #7 - 08/31/12 at 07:15:20
 
New specs and test runs.

  Mix                                             Pilot      Main      Spacer
Carb settings      0,5-1,5 CCW      52,5      155      1/1 original spacer
Results o2%                        
Idle      10,50 %  (same as last run)                
Crusing      11,5 %   (+0,5%)                            
Half throttle      12-13%      (-3%)        
3/4 throttle      16% (-2%)                  
Full throttle      18% (-2%)                
Full throttle+ high rev      18,5%      (before: out of range)    

I found on internet that 12-13% is best for power. 14,7% is best for combustion (MPG, emission)

THe mix screw has less effect than expected. It was not possible to measure differrence in O2 on crusing speed from ,5 to 1,5. But it was for pops and bangs.

It is tempting to try with a smaller pilot, but I will try with a 160 main first. I am quite close in the pilot area with 11,5% (power) but not for MPG. Main is still way to lean on half to full throttle.

What suprises me is the good results with putting the original white spacer back again...... Tning for MPG it might be adjusted leaner... ? But I adjust for power of cource. And the rich side will make the engine run a bit cooler, wich is nice for a air cooled engine.

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Reply #8 - 08/31/12 at 09:20:12
 
Keep us posted... Very interesting info...

I am considering going up one on my main and restoring my spacer... based on your results...
Might help mpg's...

Thanks.. Wink...
(I'm currently #150/50 with 2/3rd spacer...  may go #152.5/50 with full spacer)...@ 2600ft...w/ K/N and Harley shorty (full baffle)...
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Reply #9 - 08/31/12 at 09:55:16
 
I'm two up on main jet one on low,Stock spacer. Its a little lean in mid range till motor warms up good or below 50 degrees .Drilled out stock muffler.
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Reply #10 - 08/31/12 at 10:42:53
 
Love'n the data. Can't wait for more! SCIENCE! lol  Grin
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Reply #11 - 08/31/12 at 10:47:01
 
Thanks for interest. Heres some more info:
Idle 10,5
Cruising in 80kmh 11,5
Cruising in 100kmh 12
A little more than 100kmh 12,5

THis tells me that my pilot (52,5) is to big.

I have ordered a 50 pilot, a 170 main and a 180 main Smiley I guess the KN filter provides for to little vacume? It is very lean with 155 main. (18%). It changed 2% on an increment of 5. I guess it is not linear, but I want values around 12-13. THerefore the big jets.

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Reply #12 - 08/31/12 at 13:15:13
 
Can you tell us any engine mods you did and is that the stock air box or did you use a K&N cone/pod filter?
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Reply #13 - 08/31/12 at 14:35:14
 
KN filter, opened up dyna muffler. Home made bend for upsweep muffler mount  and opened header wich gives more volume (betwen inner and outer tube) for the exhaust. I do not know if it change anything with more volume.
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Reply #14 - 08/31/12 at 14:37:12
 
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