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OHIO 2012 Pa and Fla...UPDATE Good News! (Read 303 times)
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Re: OHIO 2012 Pa and Fla...
Reply #30 -
08/27/12 at 10:03:57
Many people born in the 30s 40s 50s and 60s have NO birth certificate how do you suppose they get one to PROVE to the republicans they are legitmate Americans???????????? Some of you seem to forget...voting is a right Not a privilege a republican gives you!!
Many forms if id do not qualify like student ids or tax records or morgages or vet ids etc........total BS period.
Explain how changing dates and times so more republicans can vote and fewer dems is moral or legal or that follows the 1964 voting RIGHTS act...
Lets here from all the ryan romney guys on this one.
There is no excuse to justify this attempt to rig an election!!!
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08/27/12 at 10:12:28
If you choose to not get an ID (it is a choice) based on difficulties then forfeit your vote. Otherwise do whatever is required to obtain said ID. Whine all you want but don't expect anyone to give a darn. There is no situation that a legal citizen would not be able to get an ID. Might have to jump through some hoops but if you are eligible you will be able to get it. Too lazy.. too bad. Don't know how.. find out how. No excuses. No ID, no vote.
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Reply #32 -
08/27/12 at 10:20:01
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on 08/27/12 at 09:33:55:
Question:
If someone tried to get a loan and was turned down because they did not have a photo ID to start the credit check process, would that be a violation of fair lending laws and the federal government could demand banks and other lending institutions do away with that requirement.
Yes or No.
OOoo nice very nice try, sadly also very incorrect. I gave them my name and SS# and so did my wife, and we said the baby dont have one cos its still in mommy's tummy - we didn't even have to fill the forms we signed it after their system filled it up. They said great, you can move in friday and we'll call you if there is any problem. We closed on that house and moved in on the day they said. I took 1/2 hour off work to get it done @ the sales office in my subdivision. Took all of 4 days or so.
See there can be no attempt to steal a house - and even if you somehow did, they could probably call the insurance company and get a full on refund. So they dont need ID or any bloody thing.
Someone can steal an election, and the yare using the ID system to do so. The PA governor said so himself.
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08/27/12 at 10:54:33
Getting a loan, is not a Constitutional right... some people never get a loan,... never buy a house or car,...
Everyone don't live like you... it don't make them ineligible to vote...
so your answer is....?
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08/27/12 at 10:55:15
The PA governor said so himself.
what PA governor?
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08/27/12 at 11:02:25
Explain how changing dates and times so more republicans can vote and fewer dems is moral or legal or that follows the 1964 voting RIGHTS act
that's made up BS at best and an out and out lie at worst. if you want a tit for tat, explain how thugs standing outside a polling place threating white voters to reduce the liklihood of republican votes is moral or legal? Our racist atty general decided it was no big deal.
do
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from both sides cheat in an election? Sure they do. But dems are the only ones who out and out stole a presidential election (Kennedy over Nixon) via widespread cheating in Chicago.
look, just get over it. Proper ID for voting is not unreasonable. We all know the only reason it's an issue to you is because you know 90% will vote for Hopey.
I want voters to have a photo ID because I know dems will cheat and photo ID's at least make that a little harder.
You wouldn't give a crap about military voter suppression because you know 75%+ vote for Republicans.
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Reply #36 -
08/27/12 at 11:26:46
WebsterMark wrote
on 08/27/12 at 11:02:25:
Explain how changing dates and times so more republicans can vote and fewer dems is moral or legal or that follows the 1964 voting RIGHTS act
that's made up BS at best and an out and out lie at worst. if you want a tit for tat, explain how thugs standing outside a polling place threating white voters to reduce the liklihood of republican votes is moral or legal? Our racist atty general decided it was no big deal.
do
individuals
from both sides cheat in an election? Sure they do. But dems are the only ones who out and out stole a presidential election (Kennedy over Nixon) via widespread cheating in Chicago.
look, just get over it. Proper ID for voting is not unreasonable. We all know the only reason it's an issue to you is because you know 90% will vote for Hopey.
I want voters to have a photo ID because I know dems will cheat and photo ID's at least make that a little harder.
You wouldn't give a crap about military voter suppression because you know 75%+ vote for Republicans.
if it's free and provided by the voting registration people either at the polls or someplace that person is going to be anyway so they don't have to spend money to get it that they normally wouldn't spend then fine, but it's not, it's putting hoops up to jump through to vote that weren't there before. the voting registration people (whoever the hell that is) should be required to provide these ids to the people, they can get little photo machines and print and laminate the ID's at the voting places, yes this would cause a huge headache and massive lines, but this could also be done at early voting times, it really doesn't take but 15 minutes if it's set up right, and it wouldnt' be that many people right web, since you dont' believe that this would affect that many people right.
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Re: OHIO 2012 Pa and Fla...
Reply #37 -
08/27/12 at 11:28:37
tarkm812 wrote
on 08/27/12 at 08:32:04:
Oh I'm sorry. The line for ID's is too long. We'll just take your word for it. If that is the reason you are using, nothing you say will be taken seriously. Maybe it is inconvienient to get one but please dont make this out to be anything but smoke and mirrors. You only have to get it one time and it is resolved. Anyone is this day that says they can't get one is full of it and will be looked at suspiciously. No more BS.
if this was fixing a real voter fraud problem, okay, but it's not fixing anything
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08/27/12 at 11:34:44
WebsterMark wrote
on 08/27/12 at 10:55:15:
The PA governor said so himself.
what PA governor?
Whoever it was who said "implementing the voter ID system that would let Romney win PA - Done" - Thanks to google - Mike Turzai and here is the clip on youtube -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8
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08/27/12 at 11:35:35
Would cutting off a baby finger after you vote be prohibitavely expensive. This would allow you to vote in two Presidential during your life (unless you are rich and have new one surgically added)
Wouldn't 2 be enough, we are going to have to execute you when you hit 40 yrs old cause no one will vote to fund re=tirement programs.
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Reply #40 -
08/27/12 at 12:00:23
Rep's know full well,.. all of these ID laws will be overturned in the courts eventually, on the grounds that they are against the voter rights act...
They don't care,.. they just want to drag it out long enough to get passed the election... and get Romney and a Senate majority in...
Then, they'll be in position to rewrite the voter act... cancel Obamacare, give the rich the tax cuts they don't deserve, and fill the Supreme court with Pro-life advocates...
Mission accomplished,.. one democracy sold to the Koch bros, and Adelson...
Welcome to the Fascist States of America...
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08/27/12 at 12:11:38
Then, they'll be in position to 1)rewrite the voter act... 2)cancel Obamacare, 3)give the rich the tax cuts they don't (do) deserve, and 4) fill the Supreme court with Pro-life advocates...
I'm good with 2-4. sweet.....
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08/27/12 at 12:18:17
Web,.. what's yer' plan when you retire?... Medicare?,.. or go broke with your (or your wife's) first major illness and get your HMO cancelled, loose your home and savings, and go on welfare?... or just both die before reach retirement?...
You think your HMO will still love you when you're 80?... Think you'll be able to swing the $20,000 a month premium?...
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Re: OHIO 2012 Pa and Fla...
Reply #43 -
08/27/12 at 12:52:03
Give someone an opportunity to vote without being able to verify who that someone is is indeed a problem. If you dont think this flaw will be exploited then you have your head in the sand. Even one fraudulent vote compromises the system and it will be far more than one. Of course there is politics behind this but why wouldn't anyone want this accurate unless their motive was less than sincere. There is no reason to be without an ID. If you can't figure out how to get a legit ID maybe you should not be participating in this election. No excuses.
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Reply #44 -
08/27/12 at 12:53:19
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Then, they'll be in position to 1)rewrite the voter act... 2)cancel Obamacare, 3)give the rich the tax cuts they don't (do) deserve, and 4) fill the Supreme court with Pro-life advocates...
I'm good with 2-4. sweet.....
You're good with that even if it's against the will of the people? sounds like you like authoritarian governments, you should move out of this representative democracy and move to, idk, maybe Saudi Arabia, I think they have most of what you like there
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