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B.J. and Jo Junior Member Offline Posts: 59 Colorado Springs, CO.	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #240 - 03/21/13 at 11:30:30 Ok, dumber than a box of rocks noob here! I had the oil/filter changed at the dealership, it was Suzuki 10W40, can I just "add" say the Eastwood ZDDP additive to the oil in the motor now?? Thanks.
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Reply #241 - 03/21/13 at 12:01:01

Well.....You could add some ZDDP. You woulld have to order it, pay for shipping, and wait for it to arrive.

Or....You could buy a gallon of Rotella T at Walmart for $ 12.97 and get 2 oil changes out of it. Just pull the drain plug and dump the Suzuki oil out and use it in your lawnmower....then fill it with the Rotella. Just leave the filter in place and don't worry about the little bit of oil that will still be in it.

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Reply #243 - 03/22/13 at 06:11:32

Dave wrote on 03/21/13 at 12:01:01:

Well.....You could add some ZDDP. You woulld have to order it, pay for shipping, and wait for it to arrive.

Or....You could buy a gallon of Rotella T at Walmart for $ 12.97 and get 2 oil changes out of it. Just pull the drain plug and dump the Suzuki oil out and use it in your lawnmower....then fill it with the Rotella. Just leave the filter in place and don't worry about the little bit of oil that will still be in it.

I wonder what sort of valve actuating mechanism is in the lawn mower. But, at least, it isn't likely to have a wet clutch.

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Liffey3 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 4 Austin, TX Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #244 - 04/11/13 at 10:14:53 FYI If you have a Cycle Gear store in your area, they carry RedLine. Price was less that I saw on Amazon.
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Recommended oil booster for Rotella T6 synthetic?
Reply #246 - 04/11/13 at 11:40:00

I ride in the winter, when it may be as cold as 30F, for relatively short rides of an hour or so. And I take long trips in the summer, when it may be 95F and humid, and I'm going 70-75mph for 300 miles. I bought a gallon of Rotella T6 and a bottle of the Redline booster. For this kind if riding, how much booster would I add per gallon of Rotella T6 to optimally protect the bike? After poring through this thread, still not clear to me what's best for relatively hard riding. Thanks!

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DavidOfMA Senior Member Offline Getting back in gear after a long time away Posts: 336 Beverly, MA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #248 - 04/11/13 at 14:21:26 Thanks for the pointer to the table, but my question, which maybe I didn't make clear, is: what is the optimum concentration of ZDDP I should be aiming for, given the type of riding I do, for the S40? The Rotella, I gather, has 1200. Do I want 1800? 2000? 2400? Thanks.
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Reply #249 - 04/11/13 at 14:36:45

The car guys say that 1200 ppm is enough for flat tappets. There are white papers that say this. I personally would not go above 1600 to 1700 ppm and have read that over 2000 starts to cause camshaft spalling in fresh engines because it began to attack the iron and allow the cam to pit under load.

Some racing only oils have a lot of ZDDP but they are for race engines that have high lift cams with very high valve spring pressures, A stock LS650 does not have this.

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Reply #250 - 04/11/13 at 17:31:04

So, if I want to boost the ZDDP in my Rotella T6 from 1200 to 1500ppm, how many ounces of the Redline booster would I add? I've read through the first few pages of this thread and get more confused the more I read.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this in simple terms (like add 2 oz to a gallon, or something equally simple).

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Reply #251 - 04/11/13 at 17:41:08

DavidOfMA wrote on 04/11/13 at 17:31:04:

So, if I want to boost the ZDDP in my Rotella T6 from 1200 to 1500ppm, how many ounces of the Redline booster would I add? I've read through the first few pages of this thread and get more confused the more I read.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this in simple terms (like add 2 oz to a gallon, or something equally simple).

roughly 1/4 of an ounce (7.5ml) to 1 gallon of T6 will raise it by 320 ppm on the zinc side which is the part your wanting to boost.

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Reply #252 - 04/11/13 at 18:44:37

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roughly 1/4 of an ounce (7.5ml) to 1 gallon of T6 will raise it by 320 ppm on the zinc side which is the part your wanting to boost.
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Okay, now I'm still confused but getting there. I think your math is off, though it helps to know that it's the zinc figure I'm interested in.

According to the Redline chart, there's 20,500ppm zinc in 16oz, which is 1281ppm per 1oz. and 320ppm per 1/4oz. So, if I were to add 1oz of Redline to 4 quarts of oil, I'd raise the zinc content of the whole gallon by 1281ppm, which is the same as raising the zinc content of each quart by 320ppm, which is what I want to do. Isn't that right?

Sorry to be so dense, but now that I see how this is figured, this is what it looks like to me.

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Reply #253 - 04/11/13 at 19:16:25

DavidOfMA wrote on 04/11/13 at 18:44:37:

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roughly 1/4 of an ounce (7.5ml) to 1 gallon of T6 will raise it by 320 ppm on the zinc side which is the part your wanting to boost.
R.F.

Okay, now I'm still confused but getting there. I think your math is off, though it helps to know that it's the zinc figure I'm interested in.

According to the Redline chart, there's 20,500ppm zinc in 16oz, which is 1281ppm per 1oz. and 320ppm per 1/4oz. So, if I were to add 1oz of Redline to 4 quarts of oil, I'd raise the zinc content of the whole gallon by 1281ppm, which is the same as raising the zinc content of each quart by 320ppm, which is what I want to do. Isn't that right?

Sorry to be so dense, but now that I see how this is figured, this is what it looks like to me.

Yup your right, I'm tired so I wasn't thinking on the 1200ppm per qt that the T6 already had Undecided

So yes it's 1oz per gallon that you want to add.

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DavidOfMA Senior Member Offline Getting back in gear after a long time away Posts: 336 Beverly, MA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #254 - 04/11/13 at 19:30:26 Well, at 1/2 oz per oil change, my 16oz of booster will last considerably longer than I'll last unless I do an awful lot of riding!
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