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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So! Reply #15 - 07/08/12 at 03:33:39 I stopped by the dealer a couple of days ago and while there asked about the S40. The dude said they don't know yet about any of the models but will find out in 2 months when Suzuki has a dealer gathering in Vegas to show & tell about the '13 models they will get.
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Reply #16 - 07/08/12 at 03:44:31

Speaking of efi, has anyone thought about the megaquirt systems more specifically the microsquirt to try and adapt it to the Savage? Only issues I could really think of off hand is trying to find an acceptable throttle body and 2 I wonder if the electrical system will handle a efi system even as simple as the microsquirt? With the microsquirt you could also have alot better control over the ignition system as well. Full timing control would be a very nice feature especially with the Overbore kits and performance cams.

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Reply #17 - 07/08/12 at 04:16:44

RFW, do you have a link to this system? MXRob on the DR650 site has been working on a FI ststem for that bike with some...sucess.

Lancer, i guess we will know the fate of the savage in 3 months then.

WD..45 I agree, the name change did not help. the dealers here in fla sell S40s pretty well mainly because of price and weight. There are several FI bikes that are air cooled so just adding FI does not mandate liquid cooling...besides my D14 tractor and truck and 2 of my other bikes are liquid cooled...

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Reply #18 - 07/08/12 at 04:26:45

Drifter wrote on 07/08/12 at 04:16:44:

RFW, do you have a link to this system? MXRob on the DR650 site has been working on a FI ststem for that bike with some...sucess.

Lancer, i guess we will know the fate of the savage in 3 months then.

WD..45 I agree, the name change did not help. the dealers here in fla sell S40s pretty well mainly because of price and weight. There are several FI bikes that are air cooled so just adding FI does not mandate liquid cooling...besides my tractor and truck and 2 of my other bikes are liquid cooled...

sure do, here ya go.
http://microsquirt.info/ for the microsquirt specific stuff and here is the main page for the megasquirt in general.

http://www.megasquirt.info/

The Mega/Microsquirt systems are a low cost efi system that is geared towards the DIYer for converting carbed engines to efi. Can be used on pretty much anything and depending on which version you go with as they have several different models to chose from on the hardware it can be Fuel only or Fuel and ignition. I have been wanting to try one out for years just never had a project to try one out on yet. The megasquirt systems you can buy as a build it yourself kit where you solder it all up yourself, but the microsquirt since it's all surface mount and water resistant plus a lot smaller is sold only as pre-assembled but at a very nice price still.

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Drifter Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 430	Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So! Reply #19 - 07/08/12 at 04:53:35 Looks interesting, i vote for you to test and give us the full report.
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Reply #20 - 07/08/12 at 05:17:44

Drifter wrote on 07/08/12 at 04:53:35:

Looks interesting, i vote for you to test and give us the full report.

I may one winter as a project, just to see how it goes. Need to clean out one of my storage buildings so I have a work space to do something like that in though. It would defiantly be an interesting project.

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Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So!
Reply #21 - 07/08/12 at 09:58:03

Here in CA, the S40 is frequently out of stock. I just bought a 2012 about a month and a half ago and I had to wait two weeks for the shop to get one.

This was at Bert's MegaMall in Covina so they do more volume than most small bike shops but the Sales Manager said they sell in excess of 15 a month, even more when Suzuki runs the 0% financing.

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Reply #22 - 07/08/12 at 12:39:57

Something being worked on for the Ninja 250, but was designed for single cylinder machines:
Check the Ecotrons system (can't post links yet)
I would personally prefer using the DIYefi.org system for a do it yourself system. The Megasquirt people are not really open to suggestions and the project is no longer open sourced so making it fit on things that it doesn't support is up to the whim of the owners.

As far as EFI on air cooled cycles goes, Buell XB series comes to mind since I have one, also Harley has switched some models to EFI and retained air cooling.

Throttle bodies should not be a problem since the TU250 could be used as parts, as well as other machines or a custom TB could be created, they are nothing more than throttle plate, position sensor and often injector mount. Few of these systems use a mass airflow sensor but I would not completely rule it out if someone wanted to build a system.

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Dj12midnit Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline If you'r here and I'm here isn't this our time? Posts: 1036 Lynden Wa. Gender:	Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So! Reply #23 - 07/08/12 at 13:15:28 Looks to me like they are getting rid of the entire boulevard line.
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ZAR Serious Thumper Offline Rock this town! Rock it inside out! Posts: 961 Kentucky, USA Gender:	Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So! Reply #24 - 07/08/12 at 15:51:05 Dj12midnit wrote on 07/08/12 at 13:15:28: Looks to me like they are getting rid of the entire boulevard line. And what supporting evidence have you seen DJ?
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High_Plains_Thumpr Ex Member	Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So! Reply #25 - 07/08/12 at 16:14:10 Or is this just a renaming of the cruisers, similar to when they dropped the Savage, Intruder, Marauder, etc. for S40, S50+, etc.?
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Badass94Cad Senior Member Offline This space for rent Posts: 313 Mass-->Jerz-->PA! Gender:	Re: 2013 The End of the Savage/S40 Say it Aint So! Reply #26 - 07/09/12 at 10:03:58 Dj12midnit wrote on 07/08/12 at 13:15:28: Looks to me like they are getting rid of the entire boulevard line. What facts back up this claim?
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