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Reply #105 - 07/07/12 at 09:57:27

Bill, I have absolutely ZERO issues pulling the trigger on a 2 legged threat. Have done it before, likely will again. In my part of the country, you carry or you get hurt. Especially if you have to go to the big city (Memphis).

As for how to safely carry on a bike? .22 Magnum revolver, hammer down on an empty chamber. Gun small enough to fit in my pants pocket. Can't fire if I land on it, small enough not to cause serious injury if I do so.

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Reply #106 - 07/07/12 at 10:23:20

Somewhat ironic, that so many pistol packers are riding motorcycles...

Riding a 350lb motorcycle among tens of thousands of 3,000lb projectiles... is equivalent to bringing a pen knife to a gunfight...

... and the odds are far more likely that the car will hit you than a bullet...

I assume you all, always wear FFhelmet and armor?... ... but that's equivalent to wearing a bulletproof vest...
The equivalent of carrying a gun,.. is driving an SUV... not any motorcycle...
... and, I don't feel safer because some people are armed,... any more than I feel safer because some people are driving SUV's....

Even a cop, is more likely to be hurt or killed in a car accident than by a gun...

I'm not saying don't carry,.. just that the justification is unrealistic...
IMHO,.. if you carry,... it's for some other reason than a rational risk assessment...

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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #107 - 07/07/12 at 10:26:09 Serowbot wrote on 07/07/12 at 10:23:20: IMHO,.. if you carry,... it's for some other reason than a rational risk assessment... How about it's my right to carry? Reason enough for me...
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Reply #108 - 07/07/12 at 10:56:05

I havent had a flat or a wreck in so long, I couldnt begin to say when it was..I guess Ive been avoiding places where flats happen, so, I guess I carry a spare out of sheer paranoia, & I wear a seatbelt, cuz Im skeert,, even tho I havent felt one go tight on me due to a wreck in,, geeze,, IDK that Ive ever been saved by one.. I think the only car wrecks I was ever in I wasnt wearing one,
I guess Im doing these things for some reason other than the unlikely event of needing them,

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #109 - 07/07/12 at 10:57:41 Anyone know were I can buy a bullet proof cover alls and helmet.
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Reply #110 - 07/07/12 at 11:14:40

Greg wrote on 07/07/12 at 10:26:09:

Serowbot wrote on 07/07/12 at 10:23:20:

IMHO,.. if you carry,... it's for some other reason than a rational risk assessment...

How about it's my right to carry? Reason enough for me...

Absolutely,... in Arizona, it's also my right, not to wear a helmet...
I don't exercise that right either...

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/07/12 at 10:56:05:

I havent had a flat or a wreck in so long, I couldnt begin to say when it was..I guess Ive been avoiding places where flats happen, so, I guess I carry a spare out of sheer paranoia, & I wear a seatbelt, cuz Im skeert,, even tho I havent felt one go tight on me due to a wreck in,, geeze,, IDK that Ive ever been saved by one.. I think the only car wrecks I was ever in I wasnt wearing one,
I guess Im doing these things for some reason other than the unlikely event of needing them,

... it's been a long time,.. but you have had flats, and you have had accidents...
When was the last time you were shot?... Huh

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Most people have had a flat,.. and most people have been in some kind of accident, or at least know somebody...
... and when was the last time you were shot at?...

Ladder tie your shoe laces people... I swear, I heard of a guy once, that fell of a cliff, and the ladder tie of his shoelaces caught him and saved him...
Someone could shoot your motorcycle in a turn and cause you to go off a cliff and your shoelace could get caught on a hanging branch and save you...
... and from there, if you are packin', you could whip out yer' pistol and shoot that guy... Grin

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Do you carry? Reply #111 - 07/07/12 at 11:43:17 and when was the last time you were shot at?.. I was about 12, in the sandhills outside of Monahans, its pretty unnerving hearing a bullet sing off the sand a few feet away,, & yep, If I woulda had a gun, I woulda shot at that guy.,
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #112 - 07/07/12 at 14:43:36 Serowbot wrote on 07/07/12 at 11:14:40: Absolutely,... in Arizona, it's also my right, not to wear a helmet... I don't exercise that right either... I exercise each of those rights at times. It's the only exercise I get!
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royblueboy YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 48 Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #113 - 07/07/12 at 21:31:16 I have a permit but usually do not carry.
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dinsdale Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 186 Ottawa, Canada Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #114 - 07/08/12 at 20:18:43 Guns are used millions of times a year to defend human life in the US and Canada. FBI stats back this up. Shooting is most often not required. Read any John Lott or Gary Mauser. Both used to be anti-gun until they tried to find facts to support that view.
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Re: Do you carry?
Reply #115 - 07/09/12 at 17:36:27

Yes I just started to carry. I've been a long gun owner since I was 16 years old. I started with a .22 and used a 30-06 for hunting deer and target shooting. I reload for all my rifles and also shot black powder. I got my CCP two years ago and finally got a little Ruger LCP .380 pocket pistol two months ago. My wife and I carry around some pretty expensive camera gear on the weekends and after being out in the middle of Ocala national forest with no cell phone reception the need for self protection came up. After a long talk we decided that a small handgun was something that should be included on some of the photo trips.
I know how to shoot and can hit whatever I shoot at, I just hope I will never need to use that little .380 for anything except target shooting. If someone is going to kill my wife or me I'll stop his clock if at all possible.

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10665 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #116 - 07/09/12 at 18:12:31 When traveling...yep. Don't carry locally but when at home ... L&L. No one is coming through my door or window or threatening my family.
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Re: Do you carry?
Reply #117 - 07/09/12 at 19:24:30

ballpein hammer or cold steel safemaker2 . avg person can cover 21ft in about 2sec. by the time you bring to bear,aim and fire how long is that?

don't believe me? get an air soft gun and holster. have someone 21ft away run at you with a training knife or something like it. try and react to the threat before they cut you and get back to me.

also read up on the o.o.d.a loop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop

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Re: Do you carry?
Reply #118 - 07/09/12 at 22:18:19

Sam7.62 wrote on 07/09/12 at 19:24:30:

ballpein hammer or cold steel safemaker2 . avg person can cover 21ft in about 2sec. by the time you bring to bear,aim and fire how long is that?

don't believe me? get an air soft gun and holster. have someone 21ft away run at you with a training knife or something like it. try and react to the threat before they cut you and get back to me.

also read up on the o.o.d.a loop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop

They did this on Mythbusters,

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Do you carry? Reply #119 - 07/09/12 at 23:15:53 Yup... knife's as good as a gun at 20ft or less... maybe better... Plus... against zombies... you never have to reload a knife... ...
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