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Pine Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1694 Mississippi, USA Gender:	My savage like gas.... 05/11/12 at 15:34:49 No the MPG is not bad.... but my savage like GAS not Ethanol ! Finally after two weeks I got by one of only a FEW places within 60 miles that has REAL gas.. Boy that sure perked up the ole gal! PS: Price was $3.89/gal
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Dj12midnit Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline If you'r here and I'm here isn't this our time? Posts: 1036 Lynden Wa. Gender:	Re: My savage like gas.... Reply #1 - 05/11/12 at 15:41:46 I am lucky here as it sells everywhere. but it is 4.15.
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Reply #2 - 05/14/12 at 04:18:42

Fuel with 10% ethanol runs just a tad leaner than pure gasoline. So the combination of being jetted by the factory to run lean and clean...along with the leaner burning ethanol mix.....means that your engine is running pretty lean. When you run pure gasoline the mixture gets a little closer to the ratio the engine would like to have to run well. Cars with fuel injection and oxygen sensors can adjust the fuel/air mixture to work well with any combination of gasoline and ethanal that comes from the pumps - engines with carbs are not that sophisticated.

Unfortunately it is a real "treasure hunt" around the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area to find gasoline that is not blessed with ethanol. I have to drive to Liberty, Indiana and go to the CountryMark to buy 90+ gasoline that is not mixed with ethanol. I take a trailer and a 55 gallon drum or two and stock up. I use this gasoline in my bikes and lawn equipment and I no longer have problems with corrosion in the fuel system or dissolving fuel lines.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: My savage like gas.... Reply #3 - 05/14/12 at 05:47:01 Right now 100 per cent gas is $3.75 about 12 miles from where I live,I get about 4% better mileage on my car with it. Motorcycle runs better I don't check mileage on it any more,It was always around 60 mpg.87 octane
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Reply #4 - 05/14/12 at 06:39:43

Dave wrote on 05/14/12 at 04:18:42:

Fuel with 10% ethanol runs just a tad leaner than pure gasoline. So the combination of being jetted by the factory to run lean and clean...along with the leaner burning ethanol mix.....means that your engine is running pretty lean. When you run pure gasoline the mixture gets a little closer to the ratio the engine would like to have to run well. Cars with fuel injection and oxygen sensors can adjust the fuel/air mixture to work well with any combination of gasoline and ethanal that comes from the pumps - engines with carbs are not that sophisticated.

Unfortunately it is a real "treasure hunt" around the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area to find gasoline that is not blessed with ethanol. I have to drive to Liberty, Indiana and go to the CountryMark to buy 90+ gasoline that is not mixed with ethanol. I take a trailer and a 55 gallon drum or two and stock up. I use this gasoline in my bikes and lawn equipment and I no longer have problems with corrosion in the fuel system or dissolving fuel lines.

I agree with your analysis ... and raise you...

Not only is Ethanol, providing a leaner mixture to our bikes... BUT because I live in Mississippi.. humidity often runs 100%.. thus the Ethanol is sucking moisture out of the air fairly dramtically. I truley think that is a large part of our problem down here, large amounts of water mixed in the gas.

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Reply #5 - 05/14/12 at 06:48:41

Pine wrote on 05/14/12 at 06:39:43:

Dave wrote on 05/14/12 at 04:18:42:

Fuel with 10% ethanol runs just a tad leaner than pure gasoline. So the combination of being jetted by the factory to run lean and clean...along with the leaner burning ethanol mix.....means that your engine is running pretty lean. When you run pure gasoline the mixture gets a little closer to the ratio the engine would like to have to run well. Cars with fuel injection and oxygen sensors can adjust the fuel/air mixture to work well with any combination of gasoline and ethanal that comes from the pumps - engines with carbs are not that sophisticated.

Unfortunately it is a real "treasure hunt" around the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area to find gasoline that is not blessed with ethanol. I have to drive to Liberty, Indiana and go to the CountryMark to buy 90+ gasoline that is not mixed with ethanol. I take a trailer and a 55 gallon drum or two and stock up. I use this gasoline in my bikes and lawn equipment and I no longer have problems with corrosion in the fuel system or dissolving fuel lines.

I agree with your analysis ... and raise you...

Not only is Ethanol, providing a leaner mixture to our bikes... BUT because I live in Mississippi.. humidity often runs 100%.. thus the Ethanol is sucking moisture out of the air fairly dramtically. I truley think that is a large part of our problem down here, large amounts of water mixed in the gas.

Try living on a barrier island in the Gulf of Mexico where 100% humidity is normal. Add to that, a tourist town with many boats & RVs that get stored for months. I never had customers with these problems when we had 100% gas. Cool

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BuckRYCA Senior Member Offline Posts: 258 New London, CT, USA Gender:	Re: My savage like gas.... Reply #6 - 05/14/12 at 06:48:53 10% ethanol is mandated in Connecticut for smog control. No straight gas is available. I add either Sea Foam or Lucas Fuel Treatment or Startron to improve stability and reduce corrosion. It's a clean air tax, but likely one of the better purposes for the taxes I pay.
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Reply #7 - 05/25/12 at 10:54:51

Wow my post was all the way back on page 7!

So been cummuting daily for two weeks with all "real gas".

Daily cummute is just a tad under 20 miles per day. I also use the bike to go meet friends and go to the movies and such. Note that while I don't "rag" the heck of it, I am not going to be all meek and not enjoy the ride either.

85 miles on 1.47 gallons of 87 octane pure gas for an MPG of 57.8
Bike is 100% stock except for a fuel filter. yeah that beats a truck at 18 MPG by just a tich, as my momma would say.

So at 55 MPG, I should be able to get 154 miles per tank, including reserve.

Now I can spend my gas saving on filling me up at lunch instead of at the pump.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: My savage like gas.... Reply #8 - 05/25/12 at 13:39:07 I don't think I can even find any without ethanol here.
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