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Reply #16 - 01/21/12 at 03:39:34

I sent him a PM but no reply yet. I talked to a Harley guy who has ridden several different bikes, some with fork extensions-rake mods, and he suggested that such a gentle extension will not cause very much change in handling, a minimal loss of turning radius, and an improved ride, because of the longer wheelbase.
So I think I'm going to go for it. Cool

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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #17 - 01/21/12 at 05:30:05 I didn't think it would change too much being a short rake, good luck with it.
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Reply #18 - 02/02/12 at 13:36:14

Canadian currency went above US (slightly) which pushed me over the edge. Dropped the dime today.
BTW, by the time I pay 13% sales tax and duty the total cost with shipping will be around $2700. I thought long and hard about this, as I will be getting a substantial tax refund, and could afford to pay cash for a new Triumph America.
I decided that I like Lil Suzy ( from "Wake up lil suzie" by the Everly Brothers) too much, so I will buy her the stuff to look real sexy.

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skeebo Senior Member Offline Ride It Like U Stole It........ Posts: 328 Fresno, Cali Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #19 - 02/02/12 at 17:44:57 Arnold wrote on 01/17/12 at 12:04:49: Been riding without front fenders for over a year now, no problem. No fender No problems
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #20 - 02/18/12 at 13:28:18 An issue has arisen. The width of the kit is greater than stock, so the SuperBrace will have to go. Oh, well.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #21 - 02/18/12 at 22:33:27 arteacher wrote on 02/18/12 at 13:28:18: An issue has arisen. The width of the kit is greater than stock, so the SuperBrace will have to go. Oh, well. You might try sending the measurements to TKat if you want another brace. I've been away for a while but I assume he's still making them.
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #22 - 02/19/12 at 05:15:48 Thanks- I had thought of that. When I get it on and ride it for a bit, I'll make that decision.
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Re: Chopper kit.
Reply #23 - 02/19/12 at 09:22:30

Ive had plenty of choppers...
The real question you gotta ask is why you want one.
Theyre ALL only good for two things:
Short straight line runs
N Photo shoots
Due to a lack of experience and a desire to put fashion ahead of function I tried to use them for weekend ridealongs and daily drivers.
Forget it!
Be comfortable n functional n ride alot.
or be fashional n flashy n look at pictures of your garage art.
Just my two cents.

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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #24 - 02/19/12 at 09:33:33 "The real question you gotta ask is why you want one. Theyre ALL only good for two things: Short straight line runs N Photo shoots" My reason for doing this is to get 6" more wheelbase. My reason for wanting that is better stability on the highway, and a better ride. It will not change the appearance that much.
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Reply #25 - 02/19/12 at 09:52:57

Oh it greatly improves high way cruising especially on this frame because it elivates the factory front seat into a better position... so does lowering the rear. But at highway speed the true trail...which is what extended forks actually change... is too little to notice. You get a degree or two of rake thereby extending the stance. But pulling onto or off on the exit ramp feels like crap. You cant corner or negotiate turns once u get off the highway. And parking in a tight spot requires effort.
look...you asked for input. Im sorry if you dont like mine. Im trying to save you problems. Call me after riding a chopper for a few years n we'll see if your taking the same stance. Im not naysaying anything...im being brutally honest. If you want one of those two things go for it. But don't kid yourself. Do a seat mod and be comfortable in any practicle situation

" i built it for dramatic effect... and we actually did the ride...but man did it handle like nuts" quote in reference to the movie that started the fad: Henry Fonda... easyrider

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Reply #26 - 02/19/12 at 10:31:14

palehorseman wrote on 02/19/12 at 09:52:57:

Oh it greatly improves high way cruising especially on this frame because it elivates the factory front seat into a better position... so does lowering the rear. But at highway speed the true trail...which is what extended forks actually change... is too little to notice. You get a degree or two of rake thereby extending the stance. But pulling onto or off on the exit ramp feels like crap. You cant corner or negotiate turns once u get off the highway. And parking in a tight spot requires effort.
look...you asked for input. Im sorry if you dont like mine. Im trying to save you problems. Call me after riding a chopper for a few years n we'll see if your taking the same stance. Im not naysaying anything...im being brutally honest. If you want one of those two things go for it. But don't kid yourself. Do a seat mod and be comfortable in any practicle situation

" i built it for dramatic effect... and we actually did the ride...but man did it handle like nuts" quote in reference to the movie that started the fad: Henry Fonda... easyrider

It's not that I don't like your input, it's just that you haven't researched this kit like I have. I am not just throwing on longer forks here. It's TUV certified, and they are very particular about what they certify.
This kit does not change the trail at all. I am getting the 9 deg kit with 4" longer forks, which will keep the bike level, extending the wheel about 6". The only downside will be a slightly increased turning radius, and the fact that I will have to buy a larger cover. Grin

And of course a stock frame with 12" overstock forks will "handle like nuts".

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Reply #27 - 02/19/12 at 10:49:49

Unless triganomitry has changed it must. Descrbe trail as you understand it so i can be better informed. First off triple tree rake is the worst way to go to achieve additional rake. Modifying the neck is the only good way to build a raked ou bike. But there are few practicle reasons. Rake is necessary for drag bikes. Drag bars are necessary for drag bikes. But no one uses positive raked trees for drag bikes. What does that say? The only reason trees with rake are practicle is to right trail...but those are in essence opposite...they are longer from pivot on the top instead of the bottom.
You can Lower the rear to get more rake. You can raise the seat at the mounts to get a better seat position. But im telling you... you cant extend forks and add positive rake in trees and not effect trail. Thats just not possible. Its like raising a vehicle and saying it doesnt lower the center of gravity... it cant be done. Google real reviews on the subject outside of this forum. I hope i was helpful and didnt come off wrong. If i can help let me know. Ive made my own costly mistakes n am trying to save you the same. Who do u think is telling the truth... the guy with nothing to gain or the one trying to sell you overpriced parts? Best of luck.

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Reply #28 - 02/19/12 at 11:23:33

OK. I am not a math guy so my description might not be the easiest to follow, but here goes:
If you draw an imaginary line along the steering axis to the ground, and another line vertically down from the center of the wheel, the difference is the trail.
The kit adds the nine degrees to the steering axis, not the trees, so the trail stays the same, as long as you extend the forks the proper amount.

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palehorseman YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 41 highpoint nc Gender:	Re: Chopper kit. Reply #29 - 02/19/12 at 12:02:51 You get it. Thats basically trail. Now rough draw what your saying n see if what they say makes any sence. Hope you get what your after.
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