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Reply #15 - 12/13/11 at 19:24:13
 
Yeah, this isn't something I'd try in my garage, or even hand over to my "buddy"
My understanding, and believe me I don't really know any of this for sure, but I had some rotors drilled many years ago, and this is what I remember being told:
1. The holes need to be perfectly spaced and centered. The rotor needs to be balanced, just like the wheel and tire. If it's off, it'll get funky on you.
I also remember hearing something about if the hole pattern is wonky, it might create some kind of harmonics when braking at speed. I don't know if that's total BS or not, it's just something I remember...
2. The other thing is that these discs are made from really hard metal; so be prepared to pay big money for the right drill bits, or go through just as much money burning up the wrong ones...

I really DON'T want to fool around with my brakes willy-nilly; that's why I started this post. I want to be sure this guy really knows what he's doing, and that's if I do this at all....
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Reply #16 - 12/15/11 at 06:58:57
 
As for the disk being hard, I would expect so, but have no way to prove it. Considering its job & how well they hold up, tho, I expect them to be plenty hard,
Drilled disks are probably drilled, then treated.

Re: Harmonics, Im gonna say Naaah.. Every spacing has a speed that would create a "harmonic" if it was a possible problem,

If I was wanting to do it, Id get a good 1/8th bit & just go to a spot as close to the axle as possible & just see how hard it is, dont go thru, just see if it will drill at all. It wont unbalance it. I have a steel ruler from a machine shop supply house I was gonna hang on the wall. I grabbed a decent bit & proceeded to put a tiny dot on the ruler. No way was it gonna drill thru. Ive had that ruler 30 years, looks like the day I got it, well,, it does have a little dent,,
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Reply #17 - 12/15/11 at 07:11:11
 
I was pretty sure the "Harmonics" thing was Phooey, but like I said, that was something I was told. I've never really seriously researched the pro's and con's of drilling a disc, or the possible safety issues. Call me shallow, but I've always just thought it looked cool.

I've been tossing around this idea, and the idea of replacing/upgrading the whole front brake on my Vintage Roadster project, but the truth is, I really like the look of the stock rotor; it's sleek and slim. Anything I would upgrade too would be a big PITA, and would look heavy and clumsy on the bike, and truthfully, I think keeping the rotor solid, and un-drilled will look more true to my projects 1960's-ish flavor, so I think I 'm just gonna leave alone!
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Reply #18 - 12/15/11 at 07:16:56
 
Sounds smart.. I dont have a complaint with the front brake as is. I can make the front tire start to screech at 40 MPH,,
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Reply #19 - 12/15/11 at 09:15:31
 
Good to know...
I've heard more than a few here complain about it not being strong enough, but my bike will be significantly lighter than stock by day's end, so I think I'll be alright. I've got a stainless steel line and brand new EBC pads for it. If I really hate it after I've gotten it on the road for a while, then I can look down that road.
In either case; I'm not sure that the drilling alone really improves the performance all that much. I'm guessing it might keep the rotor just a wee smidge cooler; it would help shed water in the rain, but it also reduces the surface area....

If anyone knows anything about the performance advantages of having drilled discs, please chime in! Surely there's a reason that race guys started doing it...
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Reply #20 - 12/15/11 at 09:23:41
 
Cooling is the only advantage I've ever heard.
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Reply #21 - 12/15/11 at 09:59:05
 
teabowl13 wrote on 12/15/11 at 09:15:31:
If anyone knows anything about the performance advantages of having drilled discs, please chime in! Surely there's a reason that race guys started doing it...

I've heard them say it improves braking... but like you said... too many holes will reduce effectiveness.

My take on it, the holes keep the pad surface clean.  And will slightly increase brake pad force (smaller contact area, same force)
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Reply #22 - 12/15/11 at 11:15:06
 
Our rotors are already pretty thin,...
I wouldn't drill them...   Huh...
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Reply #23 - 12/15/11 at 11:43:59
 
But it looks cool...
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Reply #24 - 12/15/11 at 21:59:49
 
ok, I'm gonna make a drill pattern

I'm thinking a 3 to 5 hole swoop centered over the mounting bolt.
So 4 groups, can be increased though.

EBC does it, so can we.
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Reply #25 - 12/16/11 at 07:02:38
 
Alright-y Mister! I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
Maybe I'll send you my disc along with my cam chain tensioner...
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Reply #26 - 12/23/11 at 12:01:08
 
Looking at some patterns...

I like the top one, either 4 or 8 patterns

The right one seems to dense and would have to be repeated alot.
The left one is ok, but I think to look right would need a pattern of 8.

Now having laid this out, the disk with the crazy hole pattern make sense... it was a trial disk.
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Reply #27 - 12/23/11 at 12:23:47
 
I like a curved pattern, one the drops the 2nd ( & each next) hole toward center enough that it doesnt sweep any of the area the first one did as it passes thru the pads, narrow as the swept surface is, that mite make for a 3 hole pattern. Thats just my eye, I doubt that it matters,,
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Reply #28 - 12/23/11 at 12:25:42
 
verslagen1 wrote on 12/23/11 at 12:01:08:
Looking at some patterns...
http://www.savageriders.com/verslagen/Disk/disk.jpg
I like the top one, either 4 or 8 patterns

The right one seems to dense and would have to be repeated alot.
The left one is ok, but I think to look right would need a pattern of 8.

Now having laid this out, the disk with the crazy hole pattern make sense... it was a trial disk.


I like the look of the top pattern  Grin
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Reply #29 - 12/23/11 at 13:08:43
 
None of the holes will sweep the same area.

I measured the disk, but forgot to measure the pad.

So... jog... more arc in the pattern?
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