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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #30 - 10/20/11 at 20:32:08 verslagen1 wrote on 10/20/11 at 20:12:55: clutch safety is right next to the clutch lever Pull connector loose & use a spade terminal plugged into the connector to bypass switch. When you say starter just spins do you mean it runs but does not crank engine over?
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #31 - 10/20/11 at 20:34:54 No it turns engine over but it never gets lit. Just cranks. Which connector do you mean? I dont see a connector near my clutch lever other than Just the cable itself.
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Reply #32 - 10/20/11 at 20:50:01

Should be harness with 2 wires on underside of clutch lever bracket. But if your starter is working without pulling in lever it may already be bypassed.
Did you have to pull clutch lever in before problem occurred?

When you said starter was just spinning earlier thought you meant it wasn't turning engine.

Pull the spark plug, put wire on spark plug, hold base of spark plug against cyl. head, hit starter button to spin engine over & look for plug firing.

How much fuel do you have?

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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #33 - 10/20/11 at 20:51:41 Just under the clutch lever.This is an older one.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #34 - 10/20/11 at 21:15:21 smaller pics please i see there's been some issues in the past and i think all clutch switches are the same.
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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #35 - 10/20/11 at 21:19:34 verslagen1 wrote on 10/20/11 at 21:15:21: http://smileyicons.net/s/323.png smaller pics please i see there's been some issues in the past and i think all clutch switches are the same. Believe pics are Demins' bike, V.
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Reply #36 - 10/20/11 at 21:20:47

AZSGT wrote on 10/20/11 at 20:34:54:

No it turns engine over but it never gets lit. Just cranks.

Which connector do you mean? I dont see a connector near my clutch lever other than Just the cable itself.

I think we're back to the battery.
if it turns, it should be able to fire, unless the battery is worn down.
do yourself a favor, unplug the headlight.
take sparky out and check the spark
have we checked gas yet?

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Reply #37 - 10/20/11 at 21:55:25

I agree,if you can get it to crank in neutral,you should check for spark,and make sure it wasn't a case of low fuel level.first time I ran out of gas on my bike was on the highway too,it just quit really quick.set the petcock to prime and check your engine for spark.being non computerized these engines only need fuel,spark (at the proper time),and compression to start.check for all 3 first,before you get too far into hunting wiring.

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Reply #38 - 10/20/11 at 22:00:10

RidgeRunner13 wrote on 10/20/11 at 20:50:01:

Should be harness with 2 wires on underside of clutch lever bracket. But if your starter is working without pulling in lever it may already be bypassed.
Did you have to pull clutch lever in before problem occurred?

When you said starter was just spinning earlier thought you meant it wasn't turning engine.

Pull the spark plug, put wire on spark plug, hold base of spark plug against cyl. head, hit starter button to spin engine over & look for plug firing.

How much fuel do you have?

Yes before now I had to pull the clutch in too start.

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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #39 - 10/20/11 at 22:01:33 Not low fuel I had just filled up that morning. I will check spark and battery. What concerns me the most is the fact that when I pull in the clutch and hit starter the starter is moving the bike forward. Something it never did before.
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Reply #40 - 10/20/11 at 22:06:34

verslagen1 wrote on 10/20/11 at 21:20:47:

AZSGT wrote on 10/20/11 at 20:34:54:

No it turns engine over but it never gets lit. Just cranks.

Which connector do you mean? I dont see a connector near my clutch lever other than Just the cable itself.

I think we're back to the battery.
if it turns, it should be able to fire, unless the battery is worn down.
do yourself a favor, unplug the headlight.
take sparky out and check the spark
have we checked gas yet?

It also wouldnt push start, which it should even with a dead battery

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #41 - 10/20/11 at 22:15:44 If its really a low, low battery, it wont fire the plug, The walking in gear is surely taxing that starter hard, eating juice outta the battery, Why wont it start in neutral? Darnfino,,
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Reply #42 - 10/20/11 at 22:17:42

Bike clutches always have some drag when starting in gear. If it fires right up, you may not notice it. Unless I stall out in traffic, I always start in neutral because it's less load on the starter. I bypassed my clutch switch because I don't like the clutch spring pressure pushing against the bearings behind it.
Just a me thing from running a high pressure performance clutch in a hotrod in my younger days & having it 'kill' the crankshaft thrust bearing by starting with the clutch depressed. Expensive lessons stay with me for a lifetime. Cool

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #43 - 10/20/11 at 22:22:51 AZSGT wrote on 10/20/11 at 22:06:34: It also wouldnt push start, which it should even with a dead battery Have you ever push started before?
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Markusublime YaBB Newbies Offline Thumpin through the great white north. Posts: 33 Ontario,Canada Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #44 - 10/20/11 at 22:26:34 If you find that you have spark,you may wanna consider pulling the side cover on the engine and checking your cam chain tensioner.if it came apart it could cause a no start and clutch hang up.just an afterthought.
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