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Re: Stuck Petcock
Reply #30 - 09/10/11 at 07:24:54
 
Built2Last wrote on 09/10/11 at 01:16:58:
don't forget to change the O-ring when you change the oil... according to the manual.

i thought i'd just add something to this topic.

Are you talking about the one almost everyone agrees never needs replaced ?

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Reply #31 - 09/10/11 at 08:03:24
 
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Since you want to address it as a "vacuum level issue" then what solution do you propose to increase our vacuum levels at high speeds?
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For you hot rodders and hackers, install a vacuum pump !

For the rest of us that left our bikes mostly stock, as they were intended to be by the OEM, there very likely IS NO PROBLEM. If it really was a problem for the stock cruiser, don't you think Suzy would be swamped w/ warranty problems,.....so much so that they would be forced to do something different. And in the eyes of the OEM, how long do you suppose they guarantee that you can hold WOT for ?
I have always said I personally know of 3 stockers.....incl mine, that have no trouble running up to 90 mph on a good day w/o starving for fuel. Will they eventually starve for fuel if they are abusively held there for 5 whole minutes trying for another mph ?? I don't know,...neither do they,....and neither does Suzuki......possibly,.....neither is it designed to do that, or warranteed to do that.

Now, let me ask,...how much more fuel percentage wise runs thru a 155 main jet, than a 145 main jet? Do you think it may starve for fuel somewhat sooner because it is using somewhat more fuel thru that bigger main jet ? But then that only makes sense,.....so not sure on that one. Roll Eyes
And if you really think that the OEM filter is really restrictive, (I don't) how much vacuum is lost there (I know you already acknowledged that)
So how'd I do,.....a little more food for thought ?

I don't have a problem, but for you OF, I promise you will be the first to know when I do. Wink
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Re: Stuck Petcock
Reply #32 - 09/10/11 at 11:10:35
 

I gots lots of people telling me about their problems,

I gots lots of problems "done gone away" once Raptorized.

Verslagen is aware

You are aware

Ain't no mystery to it any more.

And yes, take a stock air filter (new clean one preferably) and try to suck some air through it with your lips -- there is some resistance you can feel even when brand new and clean.    Some taste, too -- yuck

When you go to a low resistance air filter, you decrease the intake tract suction level accordingly.

Fuel amount when you become a real engine modding wicker can change from high 50's mph to high 30's for mpg, which is a significant enough change but can be explained logically as "the extra power had to come from somewhere, so you had to burn more gas to make that extra power".

Plus, high HP engines aren't always noted for highly gas efficient usage.  

Jetting alone isn't the entire story to high performance -- for example I still use the stock jets in my carburetor but I just use a lot more RPMs to make a lot more HP since I have a cam that allows that to happen now.

Routy, you putt putt around on a stock bike (that's fine, BTW).

Verslagen has a carefully custom modded vac petcock on a high performance engine (that's fine too).

Verslagen is likely gonna bite the bullet again before you do (again, that is -- he has already done bit the bullet and done rebuilds, etc already)

Now, could all of these fine normal bike engine people who have Raptorized have FIXED their vac petcocks?   Yup, Verslagen can even teach you how to fix it to flow enough gas even after you run a cone air filter and you lower your intake suction levels.  He knows how to do it.

But why would you bother to do all that and still have to watch it all the time for signs of impending screw up?

A Raptorization is a bit like having your tonsils or your appendix or your wisdom teeth removed.  

You CAN wait until you have acute appendicitis and you are in the hospital knocking on death's door before you do anything.

Or you can get it removed at the first tell tale signs of trouble ....


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Vac sucker is the same thing, once it starts to show itself -- pluck it out.



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Re: Stuck Petcock
Reply #33 - 09/10/11 at 12:31:23
 
There is the (correct) assumption by some,... that factory specialists and engineers know more than we do about building a bike,... and if, in their wisdom, they made it this way, it must be right...
Like I said,.. that is correct...

... but,... these engineers are not creating the best bike they can... they are making a bike that will come in at a certain price point, for a customer that they assume will be of a specific type...
The Savage is a bike designed for an entry level rider that wants to look like he/she's on a "real bike, but not pay a lot...
Turns out,... average Savage owners aren't that at all...
They tend to be fairly experienced riders that want a light, simple machine they can work on themselves...
A little more performance, and better reliability, and a more distinctive look and character...

That's what this site runs on... not people that don't want to touch their bikes...
We be tinkerers... Wink...
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Re: Stuck Petcock
Reply #34 - 09/10/11 at 15:04:01
 
I'll change the o ring when i change the oil but thanks for the reminder.
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