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08/29/11 at 13:11:45

hey guys im kinda new to the suzuki world and i need a lil help.. i recently swapt a 4wheeler for a savage, its an 86, not in too bad a shape. im able to get it running but not very good at all. iv opened the exhaust up so she flows a lil better and i put bigger jets in it, but she ran the same way before i changed any thing. when i get her started up she has a hard time sitting at idle and when you rev her up she spits and back fires like shes getting way to much fuel. so i put factory jets back in her. no change. iv cleaned the carb 2 or 3 times now to make sure no dirt was in it and she is clean! im just hoping some one can point me in a direction.. i wanna ride this bike but i cant figure out whats wrong with her..

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Bubba Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 956 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #1 - 08/29/11 at 13:27:20 chuck move this over to the rubber side down and you'll get more responses. Check the air/mix screw setting too. Also, just for giggles put the petcock on Prime and try it. If it runs better I'd buy a raptor petcock to replace the stock vacuum one...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #2 - 08/29/11 at 13:31:27 Where are you located? or what altitude? What jets did you try? how many miles? Opened up the exhaust... How?
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chuck650 YaBB Newbies Offline lets ride like the wind Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #3 - 08/29/11 at 14:44:48 im at sea level. and i tried a stage 1 jet kit. the bike has about 11k on her and basically i took the stock muffler off and replaced it with a glass pack.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #4 - 08/29/11 at 15:06:05 stage 1 jets for a '95 and on are probably smaller than a stock '86 jets. Do you know the numbers are on the stage 1 jets?
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chuck650 YaBB Newbies Offline lets ride like the wind Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #5 - 08/29/11 at 15:49:25 the large jet was a 150 i believe and the smaller one was a 50. the kit i got was a cheap one off ebay and it had a sheet with instuctions with it and it also came with a paper that suggested a few other mods like tweeking with the idle screw by removing the plug that covers it and the white spacer mod.. have you heard of that one before??
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #6 - 08/29/11 at 16:16:14 Well, if the guy actually knew what he was doing, he wouldn't have sold you that kit cause it's the wrong one. You got a stage 1 kit for a '95 on like I said before. The main jet in the '86 is a 155. You need a 160 or 165. Buy the jets yourself. Get a range of 5 jets 160 thru 170. Read up on how to rejet.
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chuck650 YaBB Newbies Offline lets ride like the wind Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #7 - 08/29/11 at 18:26:17 you wouldnt happen to know where i could get an assortment of jets would you??
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Re: Help!!!
Reply #8 - 08/29/11 at 18:52:35

chuck650 wrote on 08/29/11 at 13:11:45:

when i get her started up she has a hard time sitting at idle and when you rev her up she spits and back fires like shes getting way to much fuel. so i put factory jets back in her. no change. iv cleaned the carb 2 or 3 times

After all you've done to the carb, you think maybe the problem may have nothing to do w/ the carb ? Spittin back thru the carb ?? I think I'd be checkin the valve timing, before I did anymore hackin.

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chuck650 YaBB Newbies Offline lets ride like the wind Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #9 - 08/29/11 at 19:08:23 yeah she is spitting back thru the carb at times.. im still working on learing these small engines.. i appreciate all the help i can get!!
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Boofer Serious Thumper Offline Nearly too old. Posts: 1760 N Ms Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #10 - 08/29/11 at 19:09:25 Take an original jet to any bike shop, not necessarily a dealer, and tell them you want one size bigger. Go to the tech section and read up on carbs before you go messing around. I agree it could be a timing problem, but it needs to be right to find out.
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chuck650 YaBB Newbies Offline lets ride like the wind Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #11 - 08/29/11 at 19:17:10 alright ill see if i can get to a bike shop some time this week i hope. theyre kinda few and far between in my area. when i get the new jet in and try it out ill let you know if theres any change in how she acts. thanks for all the help guys its much appreciated!!!
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mmosel Senior Member 2005 No Login Offline My bike is officially THUMPING now. Posts: 415 NW Oregon Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #12 - 08/29/11 at 23:32:42 For jets, I highly recommend Nichecycle. Check out Serowbots thread in the tech section for beginners carb tuning. Good luck!
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ncron1103 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 52 Georgetown,ky Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #13 - 08/29/11 at 23:38:59 where are you located at?
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chuck650 YaBB Newbies Offline lets ride like the wind Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: Help!!! Reply #14 - 08/30/11 at 08:26:57 im on the eastern shore of Va at sea level.. theres bearly a hill here!
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