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SHaW0069 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11	JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? 06/05/11 at 20:35:51 Hello !! just curious if this JIS set of screwdrivers is everything i need for taking my bike apart?? http://cgi.ebay.ca/Moody-Tools-Multi-Length-JIS-Screwdriver-Set-58-0610-/3902... i see sizes #000, #00, #0, and #1 Do i need a #2 or any higher numbers ?? or not at all? thanks peepz!
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Reply #1 - 06/05/11 at 21:13:28

I don't really know screwdrivers by size numbers, but those kinda look like jewelers' size drivers. You'll likely need something a little bigger if that's so.

I got by without so far, but I haven't run into any real stubborn screws either. My method was to find a standard Phillips that comes close to fitting, and apply gentle pressure to loosen, while tapping the end of the handle with a hammer. Kinda a "poor mans impact driver". The correct drivers will work better though, I'm sure.

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Mr. Hyde Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 565 Kingston, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #2 - 06/06/11 at 05:56:35 You need a #1, #2 and #3 to cover all situations. #2 is the most used. The ones you mention look like minature screwdrivers, you want standard size. Take a look at this site, at least it will give you some idea. http://www.mcmaster.com/#jis-(japanese-industrial-standard)-screwdrivers/=cmnmll
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #3 - 06/06/11 at 07:45:32 Yeah, I got a set of three drivers for about $20.
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KristenAnn Full Member Offline Crashing Sucks!! Posts: 131 Westfield, Mass Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #4 - 06/15/11 at 16:00:37 I got some strange looks today when i asked about JIS screwdrivers. My boyfriend looked at me like i had 3 heads. Well i told him about them and the bike and the mark on the bolts. After he went on line and read about them himself he told me i was RIGHT!!!!! HA!! i am woman hear me roar lolol
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drums1 Serious Thumper Offline '87 Savage Bashed--Down for the count Posts: 664 Racine, Wisconsin Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #5 - 06/15/11 at 17:51:59 Am I missing something? You're gonna need more than a couple screwdrivers to take your bike apart. There's gonna be some wrenches and sockets and other stuff involved too.
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KristenAnn Full Member Offline Crashing Sucks!! Posts: 131 Westfield, Mass Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #6 - 06/16/11 at 12:28:47 I have everything i need to work on the bike other than the JIS screwdrivers.
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Reply #7 - 06/16/11 at 12:31:59

Hey Drums, you are correct about needing other tools. The issue in this thread is that regular Phillips head screw drivers often are not very effective on the type screw heads found on Japanese motorcycles. After you booger up a few, the value of the JIS-specific tools will be clearer to you. The link provided by Mr. Hyde will land a set on your front porch faster than you can type!
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #8 - 08/08/11 at 20:19:35 FWIW.... For working on these bikes, I now consider #1 and #2 JIS screwdrivers to be necessities. I also have a #3 JIS screwdriver, but consider this a "nice to have" item only, since a #3 Phillips seems to work decently well in this application. IHTH someone!
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Howitzer Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 141 Boston, MA Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #9 - 08/08/11 at 21:54:25 Will an impact driver with a philips head work? I've never used an impact driver before.
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #10 - 08/19/11 at 19:17:39 Howitzer wrote on 08/08/11 at 21:54:25: Will an impact driver with a philips head work? I've never used an impact driver before. Yep. And, if you happen to find a source for JIS impact bits, please share! TIA!
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #11 - 08/19/11 at 19:37:54 Have a look here.. not true jis, but they say they fit perfect http://www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm
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Reply #12 - 08/21/11 at 19:37:21

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/19/11 at 19:37:54:

Have a look here.. not true jis, but they say they fit perfect

http://www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm

Interesting.....but thes bits in the link are considerably longer than the standard Phillips impact bits I've got in my toolbox. One wonders if they are meant to be used as impact bits.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: JIS SCREWDRIVER SET...GOOD ENOUGH?? Reply #13 - 08/21/11 at 20:44:19 Yea,, hat a point, but, Id give them a shot,, Might lose some torque along the length,, specially on that long skinny thing.. but, the screws are pretty soft,, I expect the impct would deliver enough torque thru those tips to mess a screw up,, or bust it out,
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Reply #14 - 08/22/11 at 08:20:29

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/21/11 at 20:44:19:

Yea,, hat a point, but,

Id give them a shot,, Might lose some torque along the length,, specially on that long skinny thing.. but, the screws are pretty soft,, I expect the impct would deliver enough torque thru those tips to mess a screw up,, or bust it out,

Good point. The effect of the "impact" would be lessened by the torque being absorbed by the springiness of the long shaft. The shock effect of the impact driver is largest when the distance between the impact tool and the stuck screw is the shortest.

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