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Reply #15 - 03/24/11 at 16:42:07

verslagen1 wrote on 03/20/11 at 10:57:24:

You need to upload your pic's to someplace like bikepics, then link them here.

If it's a dropped valve, new piston, you need to bore the cylinder, have the head reworked, at least one valve.

Easier to get a used engine and swap it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-SUZUKI-LS650-SAVAGE-engine-_W0QQcmdZViewIte...

Or use the parts to rebuild yours.

If it were me, I'd take the engine out of the frame and take it indoors.
Lay down several layers of cardboard and plastic underneath.

hi, mr. buddha, this is my up date. i took tank off & 2 chrome top cover off. ive done this once before when i was changing spark plug. thenuinscrewed dozen bolts from head, i actually unscrewed 2 more by mistake. there are one on the top bolt with phillips head & one on the side for piston. however, im unable to lift the head cover( im not sure that the right name) i used wooden handle of a small ax against side of head cover from below then hammer it up ward many many time from many different spot. the cover is not moving or coming off at all. am i missing something here ? and also, i see more bad thing that is more metal shavings that size of 1/4" at the exaust port that indicates more significant damage to the engine i think. as you sugested that i like to take easier way, caz i need to complete this with my limited ability &resoure. however, i wander how do i know for sure that the used engine is good enough ?? the one for $300 on ebay was already sold.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #16 - 03/24/11 at 17:40:44 when you take off the chrome... L65 & C20 & 2xC25 (not included) Take of valve inspection cover 4xL20 I count 14, all L's (except above L65 & L20) Don't forget the one's under the covers.
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Reply #17 - 03/25/11 at 09:08:14

verslagen1 wrote on 03/20/11 at 10:57:24:

You need to upload your pic's to someplace like bikepics, then link them here.

If it's a dropped valve, new piston, you need to bore the cylinder, have the head reworked, at least one valve.

Easier to get a used engine and swap it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-SUZUKI-LS650-SAVAGE-engine-_W0QQcmdZViewIte...

Or use the parts to rebuild yours.

If it were me, I'd take the engine out of the frame and take it indoors.
Lay down several layers of cardboard and plastic underneath.

hi Vaslagen, i unscrewed about a dozen of bolts from top cover. then used a handle of small ax pushed against cover from bottom then hummered up many many times from defferent spot. however, the cover is not moving nor comming off. should i use some kind of wedge or something instead ? i have more bad news that is i can see more metal shavings size of 1/4 " at exaust port that indicates more damage to the engine. i'd like to take the easier way that you mentioned caz my limited resource & ability. $300 engine on ebay was already sold. how can i be so sure that the used engine is good enough. they sell them as it no gurantee or no return. i could be ended up with not only one but two unuseable engines with more money spent ????

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Reply #18 - 03/25/11 at 11:38:21

Too bad $300 engine is a rare find.

You either eat a valve or burnt a piston for chunks to be coming out of the crankcase and valve port. You'll need to at least replace the piston. Maybe head work. Replacement engine or new bike is your best bet unless you really want to tackle it yourself. You'll need to split the case to get out all of the bits and pieces of the piston.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #19 - 03/27/11 at 22:27:45 here's another possibility for you... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1299372018
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Reply #20 - 03/31/11 at 12:25:27

verslagen1 wrote on 03/27/11 at 22:27:45:

here's another possibility for you...

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1299372018

thank you sir. im realized that the engine on ebay was missed oppotunity.not only the price but that seller was 100% positive rate & only 2 hours drive away from my home. mean time, i'll keep my eyes on used engine & used bike. if i find used engine, what am i have to be awear of ? beside seller's positive rating ? and also, what was the main cause of this terreboro & maijer break down ? i'd like to prevent that to happen again. im sure that was my own foult.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28651 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #21 - 03/31/11 at 12:29:56 650LOVER wrote on 03/31/11 at 12:25:27: and also, what was the main cause of this terreboro & maijer break down ? i'd like to prevent that to happen again. im sure that was my own foult. Running without oil.... That killed it... That's the one sure way to kill any engine...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #22 - 03/31/11 at 13:53:21 650LOVER wrote on 03/31/11 at 12:25:27: what was the main cause of this terrible & major break down ? i'd like to prevent that to happen again. im sure that was my own fault. Have you torn it down yet and found the part that failed? I'm still just guessing.
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Reply #23 - 04/27/11 at 12:54:04

I'm waiting to hear what his findings are since I'll be in a similar boat it seems. I picked up a project bike for cheap that was ran with no oil and seized, I'm not looking forward to what I'm going to find. Hopefully the bottom end survived and I can just replace the top and fix the cylinder with a bore job and a bigger piston. It will be a week or so before I can get into it, so I'm researching worst case scenarios until then.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #24 - 04/27/11 at 14:19:44 I'm researching worst case scenarios I could do so much with that,
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topgunz1 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34 Baton Rouge, LA Gender:	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #25 - 04/27/11 at 22:19:44 So far so good, pulled the clutch cover off and there were no apparent signs of major carnage. Cam chain tensioner is at 21mm but no metal pieces. Part of me expected the entire contents of the engine cases to pour out.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: i need help please. engine shut down. Reply #26 - 04/27/11 at 22:51:33 topgunz1 wrote on 04/27/11 at 22:19:44: Part of me expected the entire contents of the engine cases to pour out. roflmao 21mm is pretty far, getrfixed.
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