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GM salmon to be first "frankenanimal"
09/21/10 at 02:08:02
 

News on front page of the Wall Street Journal -- the first commercial Frankenanimal is nearing final FDA approval stages.

Salmon, once a cheap source of protein taken from unpolluted virgin American rivers and streams is gonna make a big come back in America since they have cut in some genes from certain fast growing junk pout eels to have the frankensalmon grow to full size (plus a bit extra) in about half the time it used to take, also making it more resistant to pollution, etc etc.  

Since the Frankenhatch grows to maturity twice as fast soon the volume of fish going up stream to mate will double accordingly.   So will the volume of canned and fresh salmon headed for American tables.

When the Obama FDA final approves this designed for food splice job, the frankenspawn will be immediately dumped into the headwaters of every US salmon run, and within 2 years the modified DNA (since it is dominant, of course) will take over all the native salmon populations and within 5 years will BE the American Salmon.

Now,  please tell me exactly how that polluted water sludge eating fast growing pout eel-like thing tasted, how about it?    

Is the new salmon gonna be all pretty pink still, or is it gonna be a muddy pink color?

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/06/AR20100906024...
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Reply #1 - 09/21/10 at 04:47:13
 
What its gonna do is screw things UP
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Reply #2 - 09/21/10 at 05:40:38
 
There has NEVER been a time that scientifically modified animals have made anything better.
In eastern Oregon in the 19th century the land was covered by grass.
Greedy ranchers over grazed this down to the nub and the grass was gone. There was water just a few feet below the surface so wells were dug and irrigation temporarily helped but as the aquifers were drained there were not replenished because the lack of grass allowed the sparce rain to evaporate before it could sink to the aquifer level. The eastern Oregon became the man made desert it is today.
Then the ranchers decided that the jackrabbits were the cause and were eating to much greenery.  the government developed a disease to kill off the jackrabbits. Now the starving coyotes having had there natural food removed began to eat lambs and calves, song birds and anything else they could.  The desert became even more austere.
Now coyote eradication programs were introduced etc.
Back east they managed to get Asian carp into the waters, first ostensibly as a game fish. Then the carp became the dominant fish form where ever they went. Trout, bass and other specie began to disappear from lakes and ponds, starved out by the carp eating all the food.  What would you rather eat bass or carp?
Now there are walking catfish that move over land to spread to other waters unchecked, and those darn useless fish that are now taking over eastern waters.
When will the idiots learn that just because they can change something doesn't mean it is better or that they should.
Soon there will be no wild salmon left. They will be extinct.
By what right do they think they have to muck up nature for the rest of us.

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Reply #3 - 09/21/10 at 06:08:48
 
Frankly, I look at young people & feel sorry for them. The future looks darned grim to me. From more & more govt control, limited opportunity & ruined food, I see poverty & disease for them. Ive watched the downward spiral of America. Like the water in a toilet, it spins faster & faster, till it gurgles & disappears down the tubes. Our rate of spin is increasing & we are steadily moving down. Unless thers a real change in direction in DC, we're gonna go down the tubes.
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Reply #4 - 09/21/10 at 08:12:53
 
Stock Pile the AMMO and Extra Wepons........
2012 is on the way....
I am going to head to the hills withthe family and hide out for a while till the IDOITS all kill them selvs off
I can Fish, hunt, Grow my own Tabacco and WEED and some corn and Tomatos and Okra and live just a good clean happy life.
oh and make my wun Beer and white Liquer

LIFE WILL BE GOOD....... Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #5 - 09/21/10 at 11:36:25
 
phelonius is quite right, all the above did happen in Oregon.
I have not heard of this generic salmon you guys are talking about,
The real problem are the commercial fishermen,if left alone they would happily fish the salmon until they are were all gone,So the fishermen are forced to only fish during the season,and thats fine,but what they should do is ban commercial fishing all together for five years or 8 years,that would bring them back to normal, meanwhile eat farm raised Salmon.
Or you can make a trip to Scotland were they have the best Salmon in the world, please don't argue that point it is true.
My brother in law and Sister are on there anual salmon fishing trip down at the Alsea river Oregon,so far been there 10 days caught one salmon. in a normal year they catch two.
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Reply #6 - 09/21/10 at 11:41:10
 
... guess what he tells the ladies.... Huh...

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He tell the ladies c0ck a doodle do,The ladies tell him any c0ck adool.
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Reply #8 - 09/21/10 at 14:21:46
 
Just a small note on the 'new salmon'.......their sterile.
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Reply #9 - 09/21/10 at 14:27:53
 
what would be the point of genetic salmon ? if they are sterile ?
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Reply #10 - 09/21/10 at 15:03:03
 
They are meant for human consumption nor replenishing the worlds population.... The grow faster so you can get more every year..... Feed the world kind of thing
IT AIN'T Rocket Science
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Reply #11 - 09/22/10 at 00:38:21
 
Wolfman,

Share your sources on the sterile thing, I haven't seen it explained fully yet in what I have read.

Closest I have come is some chatter talk like this .....

"The main problem most people have with GM salmon is the thought of environmental impact they could cause. These problems may include interbreeding to cause a “Trojan gene”, or the possibility of creating a pest fish such as Tilapia or Carp.” If transgenic salmon do breed successfully with native fish, their novel gene will escape into the wild gene pool and destroy native salmon populations, which is the so-called “Trojan Gene” theory.” (http://www.primidi.com/2006/01/11.html)  

However, these fish are 100% sterile, and therefore not able to reproduce. This is done by preventing the development of the ovaries needed to produce eggs. Make your choice."

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Well, that may keep the bulk of the production momma fish out of the picture, but what happens when the unintended and very rare but still gonna happen occasionally males spew their sperm all over standard salmon eggs?

You do realize that there are fertile females that produce eggs and healthy males that spew all over them somewhere in the background of this scheme don't you?

All they got to do is lose track of one male fish that survives the ocean and the trip up a creek somewhere and whammo -- free breeding first generation mixes with normal salmon.


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Do you think all of these puppies are sterile too?


"The pending decision is being tracked by biotechnology companies that have invested millions of dollars in developing genetically modified animals for food and are waiting for the FDA to act on their approval requests.

Scientists at the University of Guelph in Ontario, Canada, have asked the FDA to approve their "Enviropig," a hog genetically altered to produce environmentally friendly manure. Hematech of Sioux Falls, S.D., is developing genetically modified cows that are resistant to mad cow disease."
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Reply #12 - 09/22/10 at 03:52:43
 
"The pending decision is being tracked by biotechnology companies that have invested millions of dollars in developing genetically modified animals for food and are waiting for the FDA to act on their approval requests.

Scientists at the University of Guelph in Ontario, Canada, have asked the FDA to approve their "Enviropig," a hog genetically altered to produce environmentally friendly manure. Hematech of Sioux Falls, S.D., is developing genetically modified cows that are resistant to mad cow disease.
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University of Guelph in Ontario, Canada: sounds like it was founded by the editors of MAD Magazine... Tongue

Enviropig... to produce environmentally friendly manure... it's sh!t! Aka MANURE ! It's a fertilizer ! How can you get it to be even more environmentally friendly ???  Grin

Hematech ... is developing genetically modified cows that are resistant to mad cow disease
Huh Huh Huh
How about somebody producing cheerleaders who are resistant to... headaches ?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Have a laugh, guys, and enjoy your home growns while you got'em  Wink
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Reply #13 - 09/22/10 at 09:42:15
 
lets make sure those cheer leaders not only never get head aches, but they only like men over 65.
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What Mick is saying is that they like real men not boys.
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