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Reply #15 - 09/18/10 at 18:54:14

I need help. What is the "standard position"? I have a photo here my daughter made while passing me at 50 mph. The palm of my hand directly over the top of my foot where it meets my ankle (Buckhorn Bars?) My foot is a little forward on the peg but not to the bootheel. My butt is barely touching the pillion seat. I thought I was slouching because of my bad back, but I am actually sitting nearly straight up. Feels OK. Is that standard? I haven't been on another bike in nearly thirty years, but the old Kawa H1 and H2s I ran seem to be about like this by my memory. Please explain with hand signals, smoke signals, and 8x10 glossys with circles and arrows explaining each. Thanks

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #18 - 09/19/10 at 00:41:17 Standard seating is a 60s Brit bike. Have a look at a Kawasaki W650. The old Honda 450 was a standard, as opposed to crotch rockets, got a fella leaned over, weight on the arms, or a cruiser , with the feet extended out front. Standard position makes standing on the pegs a simple matter.
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PerrydaSavage Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Riding "The Rock"! Posts: 3522 Republic of Newfoundland Gender:	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #19 - 09/19/10 at 02:18:06 Standard - Triumph Bonneville (Kawasaki W650, Honda CB750, etc) Cruiser - Suzuki M109 (H.D. Softail, Honda Fury, etc., etc.) Sport - Yamaha R6 (Suzuki GSXR750, Honda CBR600R, etc.)
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #20 - 09/19/10 at 04:38:20 We may now delete our posts explaining it.
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jef.savage Serious Thumper Offline ridin' n slidin' Posts: 638 Boston, MA Gender:	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #21 - 09/19/10 at 17:11:44 How about a 654cc single standard that weighs about the same as an LS650 and makes twice the horsepower? I give you the KTM Duke.
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Re: Standard versus Cruiser
Reply #22 - 09/19/10 at 18:54:05

Some may like the looks, for me it is FUgly with it's tail stuck up in the sky. As long as I can have a simple motorcycle I do not want fuel injection with the cost a high pressure fuel pump. Or the costs and problems of liquid, water pumps, leaks or corrosion. But main problem with me for the Duke would be getting a step ladder to get up onto the 34 inch high saddle.

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gerald.hughes Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline FSO Posts: 1100 Tucson, Az Gender:	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #23 - 09/19/10 at 19:38:30 I am just wondering on what planet the Duke would be considered a "Standard" bike.
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Reply #25 - 09/19/10 at 20:24:32

Put me in the standard column. The last bike I had was a '78 Yamaha SR500...new. I sold it in '81 (got married in '78 and babies started happening and I figured I'd better get off the road until they were grown and gone) and have been kicking myself ever since.

The wife and I did a 645 mile day on the SR once, but that was then. I don't think my 32-year-older back could even approach that on an S40!

Well, what's old is new again. Maybe one day the standard riding position will make a comeback. (I've still got wide paisley ties hanging in my closet!)

If the 650 Tempter showed up on the showroom floor tomorrow I'd be...Tempted.

I saw one of the Royal Enfield bikes last year. I thought it was a restoration until I talked to the owner. Great looking bike.

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Reply #26 - 09/19/10 at 22:46:21

gerald.hughes wrote on 09/19/10 at 19:38:30:

I am just wondering on what planet the Duke would be considered a "Standard" bike.

It's not a question of where it's a question of when. In the 21st century "standard" bikes don't all look like Bonnies.

Obviously those who prefer mid-twentieth century bikes may find these unattractive but that doesn't change the upright riding position, mid-position controls, and relaxed handlebar height that makes them standards.
And they're still a long way from being motards.

And as far as liquid cooling goes I'll gladly take the extra hassle for more than twice the hp! I know these bikes won't turn heads the way my Savage does but if anyone out there has a Duke they want to trade for a Savage pm me.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #27 - 09/19/10 at 23:55:30 verslagen1 wrote on 09/19/10 at 20:02:58: planet motard .... ... although,... I'd love a motard without the McDorckus plastic...
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Reply #28 - 09/20/10 at 00:52:40

Yup, no doubt about it, both the 'zuki Gladius and the Kawi Versys are "Standards" as far as Rider ergonomics go ... unfortunately though, the Versys has a stratospheric seat height for us inseam-challenged folk ... the Versys is a very popular mount up here on The Rock ... their owners are a loyal bunch who swear by the Bike's comfort and rideability; a good all-rounder.
A girlfriend of a pal's co-worker has a Gladius that has been lowered by an inch-and-a-half, have not seen it m'self, but would love to check that Bike out!

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Lupo Senior Member Offline Posts: 356	Re: Standard versus Cruiser Reply #29 - 09/20/10 at 01:03:40 Having ridden and owned standards, cruisers and sportbikes I feel I can honestly say to your question about which is best, YES.
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