Donate!
Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register :: View Members
Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
RTV head cover gasket (Read 184 times)
RTC
Senior Member
****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 260
El Paso, TX (Ft. Bliss)
Gender: male
RTV head cover gasket
03/26/10 at 23:01:58
 
i've read all the previous post but i would like to hear again if anyone cares to post. i am doing the head plug replacement tomorrow. will black rtv be okay or are the other colors that much better? what is the difference? the packages don't really say much about their differences.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
BurnPgh
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 1732

Re: RTV head cover gasket
Reply #1 - 03/26/10 at 23:46:13
 
basic differences between color are gas resistance and heat resistance. I use copper seal. i dont remember if its gas resistant but I think so, and its the highest heat resistant RTV I could find. 700* or so I think. I think you'll be okay with black , but check the specs. I dont think head temperatures get much above 200* but its always good to have as much leeway as possible.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Oldfeller--FSO
Serious Thumper
ModSquad
*****
Offline

Hobby is now
"concentrated
neuropany"

Posts: 12671
Fayetteville, NC
Gender: male
Re: RTV head cover gasket
Reply #2 - 03/27/10 at 03:08:56
 
If you castings are black, pick a black that allows you to bolt up wet.

500 degree is fine for the head cover, just remember to put it on thin and wet as you want most of it to squeeze out of the joint.   The current Permatex black is 500 degree wet bolt up capable.

Do not make the mistake of:

1) putting it on thick and letting the stuff set up before assembly - this leads to greatly increased cam journal clearance gaps and greatly reduces oil pressure at idle (leads to wear and damage).

2) once you put the head cover on and bolt it up DO NOT ROTATE ANYTHING about the engine for 24 hours - you want the RTV to set up 100% completely before any rotation.   You have squeezed some RTV into the cam journal oil clearance space and you want to let it jell in place at the parting line rather than get smeared across a journal bearing surface (smearing would pick up trash and might lead to a contamination type journal failure)

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1256079122
Back to top
 
 

Former Savage Owner
  IP Logged
Digger
Serious Thumper
2005 No Login
*****
Offline

Ya gotta be tough to
ride singles!

Posts: 1604
Colorado Springs, CO
Gender: male
Re: RTV head cover gasket
Reply #3 - 05/28/10 at 21:36:34
 
I think the choice of sealant here is fairly important.  Since the job is such a PITA, you don't want to go back in there a few miles later for an oil leak.

I used to use Permatex® Ultra Copper® Maximum Temperature RTV Silicone Gasket Maker with fairly good luck.  I'd just have some minor seepage starting after about 4000 miles.


*********************************************************

When installing the cylinder head cover, the FSM says to tighten the cylinder head bolts "diagonally."  Clymers says the same thing, but adds to tighten the bolts in the middle of the cylinder head cover first.

With this vague guidance in mind, here is the bolt tightening order I've arrived at after removing and installing the cylinder head cover a few times (loosening order (e.g. when removing the cylinder head) will be the reverse of the tightening order):








My methodology was to start with the inner-most bolts and move diagonally as much as possible.  This is just the pattern I have been using.  Your way most likely will be better, please share if so.

I torque these bolts using a 0-200 in-lb beam torque wrench in three stages (snug, half-torque, full-torque).



*****************************************************
However, the last time I did this job, I used Permatex® Ultra Grey® Rigid High-Torque RTV Silicone Gasket Maker.  I got a leak after about 600 miles (under the front, port-side corner of the head cover), but I think that was my fault due to a faulty torque protocol (keep in mind that the Ultra Grey sets up pretty rigid):

So, off the head cover came again.  This time, I did things a little different:

**********************************************************

You may have noticed that, in the above post, I did not consider torquing the bolt that goes in the top left hole in the pictures.

This is because that bolt is also used to secure the left decorative chrome head cover.  With that cover in place, some of the other head cover bolts would be hard to access.

However, if you don't mind going through a little extra trouble, you can torque the head cover in a more complete fashion.

Here is what I used to take the place of the decorative head cover - a stack of washers:





I just placed a bunch of washers on the bolt.  This allowed me to torque the bolt down properly.

After the gasket sealant used on the head cover was cured, I removed the washers and installed the left decorative chrome head cover.


Here is the torque order I used with the extra bolt in play:





**********************************************************

No leaks yet.....I hope it works this time!

BTW, this stuff seems to be working well on the rubber plug, along with the rubber camshaft end cap:  Permatex® Ultra Rubber Gasket Sealant & Dressing.

IHTH someone!
 
Back to top
 
« Last Edit: 07/09/12 at 21:41:47 by Digger »  

Digger
2001, Metallic Glacial Blue, Raptor Petcock, Verslavy (first hole) (otherwise, mechanically, the bike is stock), 13,xxx miles
I don't own a cage.
www.astronautbiker.com
WWW   IP Logged
Pages: 1
Send Topic Print


« Home

 
« Home
SuzukiSavage.com
09/22/24 at 06:30:01



General CategoryRubber Side Down! › RTV head cover gasket


SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2!
YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.