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Reply #15 - 02/05/10 at 13:53:51
 
Charon wrote on 02/05/10 at 13:11:38:
Give over, Bill - a Battery Tender IS a real charger. It happens to be a low rate charger and an automatic one, both of which you decry, but it IS a real charger and it WILL do the job.

  Then why are all the people here with tenders having so much trouble with their batteries,battery chargers are automatic too.
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Reply #16 - 02/05/10 at 17:00:09
 
I charged the battery, it's fine. I didn't mean to start an arguement or anything guys. Okay, so it's trying to turn over now that it's charged, it seems to me it doesn't even matter that I put a fresh gallon and some seafoam in it, it still has the sound.

It's definitely pretty LOUD and it seems like it MAY be coming more from the right engine but it's hard to tell. The best way to describe it is a fairly loud knocking noise that happens every half a second I try and start. Like KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK.

Don't laugh at me trying to explain it.  Grin

So where should I START. Cam Chain or Petcock?
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Reply #17 - 02/05/10 at 17:06:00
 
CAM CHAIN!!!   Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #18 - 02/05/10 at 17:12:50
 
Definitely cam chain. You are describing what happened to me when my chain went.
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Reply #19 - 02/05/10 at 17:15:22
 
cam chain. get that right side off. And if i were you i wouldve taken justins advice and not try to start it until you figured it out.
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Reply #20 - 02/05/10 at 17:16:46
 
In this diagram, what is the purpose of the tube directly under the number 2? mine just sort of is tucked back under the seat.



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Reply #21 - 02/05/10 at 17:18:26
 
Okay cool forget that last post them. Am I going to have REPLACE the cam chain or just adjust it? Should I order some parts.

Thanks for being really patient guys. I know I keep asking the same question I just wanna make sure I'm doing it right.
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Reply #22 - 02/05/10 at 17:22:16
 
get in there and see what's going on, could be wrong.
it's just that it's the most dangerous option.
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Reply #23 - 02/05/10 at 17:24:02
 
Framtid001 wrote on 02/05/10 at 17:16:46:
In this diagram, what is the purpose of the tube directly under the number 2? mine just sort of is tucked back under the seat.


http://i47.tinypic.com/2h71kdw.png
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That's the vac line that goes to the petcock.
no wonder why your bike runs only on prime.
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Reply #24 - 02/05/10 at 17:27:27
 
Not the line the arrow is pointing to, but the other line to the left of it, directly under the number 2 in the picture.

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Reply #25 - 02/05/10 at 17:37:53
 
That is a vent tube, you should have one on each side of the carb. They do not connect to anything.
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Reply #26 - 02/05/10 at 17:45:49
 
verslagen1 wrote on 02/05/10 at 17:24:02:
Framtid001 wrote on 02/05/10 at 17:16:46:
In this diagram, what is the purpose of the tube directly under the number 2? mine just sort of is tucked back under the seat.


http://i47.tinypic.com/2h71kdw.png
-Wes

That's the vac line that goes to the petcock.
no wonder why your bike runs only on prime.


The line the arrow is pointing to is the vac line. I WOULD say its a vent tube but the vent tube is the line directly above the #2. Im guessing the one below the #2 has something to do with Cali. emissions though it may well still be why your bike only runs in PRI. I have no experience with the california emission set up.

As far as the chain goes...open it up and look at the tensioner. If its in 2 peices you need to look for the spring that was in the tensioner housing. After you've done that you should order the verslavy modified tensioner from verslagen. Assuming no damage has been done you can continue to use your chain with the verslavy tensioner FOR A WHILE. Make sure the timing is still correct and install the verslavy tensioner in place of the old one. You should be able to just about double the mileage you have now with the verslavy but you WILL need to replace the cam chain and guides eventually.  If the tensioner is still together you dont need to worry much about other damage or correcting the timing, just replace the tensioner with the verslavy tensioner.
When you do go to replace the chain/guides make sure you have a clymers or suzuki service manual and go slowly. Its rather involved and intimidating if you arent very mechanically inclined but its quite doable. You'll need to remove the head and to do so you might have to remove the engine from the frame. you will need the following parts
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479893-001 - chain
479932-001 - front guide
480027-001 - rear guide
475804-001 - head gasket
total cost will be about $220 + shipping.
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Reply #27 - 02/05/10 at 18:13:22
 
Does anyone have a link for the verslagen modified tensioner? I can't seem to find it online.
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Reply #28 - 02/05/10 at 18:21:44
 
dumb question, nevermind.
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Reply #29 - 02/05/10 at 18:45:37
 
Verslavy is in the marketplace, stickied on top.

Trust me, it's the vac line.

You don't need to remove the head to replace the chain.  But not a bad idea to take a look at it.
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