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Starting problem like I have no gas
10/31/09 at 17:18:18

I took my tank off the other day to do the sparkplug mod. I put it all back together and thought nothing of it until today I went to start it. It started right up and I went inside to let it warm up. I then heard it about to stall out and went to rev the engine when it died. It wouldn't crank after that. Just starter, starter, starter. To me it seemed like it was getting no gas. I pulled the fuel line from the carb and flipped the petcock to prime. Fuel ran out. I can also physically see fuel in my fuel filter. I thought maybe the fuel system needs priming but couldn't find any posts on here about that so I guess that's not a problem. Yes the gas tank has gas in it. Wink

Only thing I did while the tank was off was snip the ends off the vacuum hose. They had splits in them.

Anything right off your head I should do to get up and running?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #1 - 10/31/09 at 17:38:31 You try it on prime? Petcock lever pointing to rear of the bike..
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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #2 - 10/31/09 at 17:59:28 yeah.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #3 - 10/31/09 at 18:05:28 Crack the nut at the bottom of the bowl on the carb. prove thers fuel in it. May be a plugged jet?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #4 - 10/31/09 at 18:23:23 Replace the vac line, even though you snip the ends, cracks are bound to be all though the line. Clean the carb. something got sucked off the bottom of the bowl into the jets.
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Re: Starting problem like I have no gas
Reply #5 - 10/31/09 at 18:53:02

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/31/09 at 18:05:28:

Crack the nut at the bottom of the bowl on the carb. prove thers fuel in it. May be a plugged jet?

Agree, easy things first. Open the fuel bowel drain and see if how much gas comes out. I use to use a tuna-fish can to drain mine and never filled it with a full fuel bowel. Only about 1/4 to 1/2 of the can.

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jabman Senior Member Offline Posts: 411 England Gender:	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #6 - 11/01/09 at 00:44:23 good point exactly how much fuel should be in there
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Re: Starting problem like I have no gas
Reply #7 - 11/01/09 at 14:30:32

Gremlins, had me a set of gremlins! Shocked

I got home ready to try some things out. It had been sitting since yesterday with the petcock in prime. I notice visually that my fuel filter has more gas in it but figure it's nothing as I've run the bike with less fuel in the fuel filter fine.
Open the fuel bowl drain on the carb and gas runs freely. Does that mean fuel is passing thru the carb, jets and all? She starts on the second try. I took it for a quick spin and everything seemed normal.

I can only guess that whatever was stuck in there dissolved? Or even having the bike on prime for so long forced it thru?

I am relieved that things seem fine now but at the same time kinda bummed that I'm not forced to take the carb off and clean it. Grin

I've never done that.
I will be replacing that half dry rotted vacuum tube for sure.

Thank you for your help as always.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #8 - 11/01/09 at 16:12:08 Have a close look at the oil. You left it on prime? If the needle valve isnt perfectly shutting gas off, you may have flooded the crankcase with gas. Just a tablespoon is too much.
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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #9 - 11/01/09 at 16:50:33 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/01/09 at 16:12:08: Have a close look at the oil. You left it on prime? If the needle valve isnt perfectly shutting gas off, you may have flooded the crankcase with gas. Just a tablespoon is too much. gas in my oil? as in I go boom? Think I'll change my oil!
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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #10 - 11/01/09 at 17:21:21 Fuel Filter ..... by chance did it have any air bubbles in it when the bike was acting up?
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Re: Starting problem like I have no gas
Reply #11 - 11/01/09 at 17:32:09

T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 11/01/09 at 17:21:21:

Fuel Filter Huh

..... by chance did it have any air bubbles in it when the bike was acting up?

it did indeed, but it has for the last 800 miles since I installed it. Sometimes it has more or less than others. From talking to my buddy at work his does the same thing. That concerned me too at first.

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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #12 - 11/01/09 at 17:46:55 Well, I was thinking that maybe the air stopped the flow like vapor lock, but if you raan 800 miles then maybe not. How many did you put on it after you got it running?
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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #13 - 11/01/09 at 18:01:40 T Mack 1 - FSO wrote on 11/01/09 at 17:46:55: How many did you put on it after you got it running? Only about 5 miles, and now I'm thinking I might not want to run it further until I get the oil changed. I don't want to go boom! I'll get it changed tomorrow for sure.
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: Starting problem like I have no gas Reply #14 - 11/04/09 at 07:22:12 Many unnecessarily get concerned when seeing a transparent fuel filter not staying completely full, which in most cases can be completely normal. BTW, where are ya all finding the transparent fuel filter ? I found the one on the petcock inside the tank, but I don't think that one counts
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