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Trouble shifting
11/07/09 at 19:46:11

I posted a while ago when I first got my 2006 S40, but haven't since. I'm having a problem with shifting down into neutral and first gears when coming to a stop. Is there something I'm doing wrong or is this something others have had? I've tried shifting down through the gears using the engine to slow the bike and also putting in the clutch, stopping, then shifting it down into first to take off again. Both ways the bike doesn't like to shift down. This is not an every stop problem, but seems to do it intermittently during a ride. I can usually get it shifted after stopping by rolling the bike backwards a couple inches or by pulling the clutch lever in and out a few times while working the foot lever. Does this sound like an adjustment issue or something else to you guys? I'm not very mechanically inclined, but am willing to tackle it if it's some sort of adjustment I can do at home. Any ideas or suggestions welcomed

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28649 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #1 - 11/07/09 at 20:26:26 Practice,.. practice,... It's just getting the feel for things,.... sounds normal mechanically...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #2 - 11/07/09 at 20:58:44 It might be an adjustment issue. When I put an engine from a wrecked bike in my '88, it was hard to shift up. Repositioned the arm on the lever and it was better. One more spline and it was perfect. mark the arm and shaft before you try anything. Move the arm in the opposite direction of shifting down.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #3 - 11/07/09 at 21:00:55 How much slack in the clutch lever? Do you "goose" the throttle a bit when you pull the clutch in? Have you tried just slapping the throttle closed & stepping on the shifter at the same time, then picking up on it just enough to not accelerate, but stop using the engine as a brake, slapping it closed & stepping on the shifter again?
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #4 - 11/07/09 at 21:41:17 What their sayin is, quit pussyfootin around w/ it,....stomp on that sucker like you're killin it !
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28649 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #5 - 11/07/09 at 21:51:23 Routy wrote on 11/07/09 at 21:41:17: What their sayin is, quit pussyfootin around w/ it,....stomp on that sucker like you're killin it ! That's what I said!...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #6 - 11/07/09 at 23:33:08 Serowbot wrote on 11/07/09 at 21:51:23: Routy wrote on 11/07/09 at 21:41:17: What their sayin is, quit pussyfootin around w/ it,....stomp on that sucker like you're killin it ! That's what I said!... That is most likely why he's having trouble, braun where finesse is needed. Bent dogs don't shift.
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Re: Trouble shifting
Reply #7 - 11/08/09 at 06:23:33

I have no idea how much force I am subjecting the shifter to. I am not trying to bend anything, but I am quick & decisive & when I decide its time to shift, Im not kidding around. Thats USUALLY,, sometimes it may take 2 seconds to get a shift, because Im just Ho Hummin' along. I almost never have a shifting problem. Sometimes it will jump out of 2nd a sec or 2 after I made the shift, but Im pretty sure thats my fault.
Diddle with the adjustment, but yea, mark it first. Check the slack in the clutch lever. Cant hurt to have a look at that. channge the way you work the gas a bit, mess around & look for a way to make it work out. Then tell it here, maybe that would be a good clue & someone could tell you how to make it work better.

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Re: Trouble shifting
Reply #8 - 11/08/09 at 09:25:59

No play in the clutch lever, all good there. As far as getting used to it, I have no problems shifting anything else including a Triumph Legend 900cc and 2 old yamaha RD400's. They all shift smoothly. Only the S40 is a problem. I've tried standing on the shift lever....no luck. I will try adjusting the clutch lever this afternoon to see if it makes a difference.

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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #9 - 11/08/09 at 09:42:38 Check the pivot point for your shift lever. A little binding there can make it shift hard. I have to take mine apart & lube it occasionally or the crud makes it stick. While you're down there, lube your brake pedal pivot points too.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28649 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #10 - 11/08/09 at 09:54:02 ...and check that the linkage rod isn't bent...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #11 - 11/08/09 at 15:25:20 [quote author=587F7971631A0 link=1257651971/0#8 date=1257701159]No play in the clutch lever, all good there. Nope, thats not good. Not good at all. Adjust for at least 1/8th inch free play. By free play, I mean you push the lever out with your fingers & its so easy to move you could push it back toward the grip with your nose.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28649 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #12 - 11/08/09 at 15:44:36 Now you're just trying to make him look silly....
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #13 - 11/08/09 at 15:48:37 Doesn't everyone use their nose when adjusting the free play in the clutch.
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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: Trouble shifting Reply #14 - 11/08/09 at 15:50:55 bill67 wrote on 11/08/09 at 15:48:37: Doesn't everyone use their nose when adjusting the free play in the clutch. You took the words right out of my fingers. And do you shift with your ear?
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