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09/21/09 at 16:47:37
 
I first have to say thanks to all who replied to my earlier posts, this site is great.

-My bike won't start...no lights...no power (kill switch off / stand up)
-when hooked up to my car batt...I get lights...once I take the jumper cbls off...no power on the bike.
-checked fuses / conncetions / and wiring...all good

- when I go to start I hear a loud inital click coming from under the gas tank...immediately after I hear a series of rapid fire clicks coming from under the seat.

Is it the batt...soleniod...ignition cable? If it was the batt wouldn't my car have enough juice to at least turn it over?

I'm at a loss right now guys and really want to get back on the road. Please help.

Adam
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Reply #1 - 09/21/09 at 17:01:23
 
mmmm... sounds like a busted starter relay but let's wait for an electrical
expert to join the thread, in the meanwhile try the following, basically we
want to see if the bike runs in the first place and if power is reaching the
CDI and if the coil is working properly; if the bike starts, this will mean the
problem rests in the starting system only:

1. - turn on all switches as if ready to start bike (place in neutral)

2. - grab some jumper cables, attach to a car's battery

3 - attach (-) negative end to the engines clutch lever

4 - then attach the (+) positive end to a large screwdriver,
you will use it to briefly touch the bikes electric starter's
(+) cable/nut end, see the black rubber cap in the pic?
expose that and touch (+) there (give it a  bit of gas too).

5 - this direct jolt of current to the starter should start
the bike if all is well; this produces a strong spark and
crank to the starter; good luck



12v starter relay

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Reply #2 - 09/21/09 at 17:15:25
 
Thanks Stimpy, I'll give that a try tonight after work. It's just really frustrating because it was working fine then all of a sudden it died!!!!
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Reply #3 - 09/21/09 at 18:10:39
 
conlime wrote on 09/21/09 at 16:47:37:
1- when I go to start I hear a loud inital click coming from under the gas tank...
2- immediately after I hear a series of rapid fire clicks coming from under the seat.


1. decomp solenoid, perfectly normal
2. starter solenoid, not normal
last time I got this my battery was dead as a door nail.  it's got enough juice to engage the starter, but voltage drops and causes the solenoid to disengage whence it picks up again and click, click...
becareful when you charge the battery back up, these kinds of starts can make the solenoid stick.  give the fender a whack to unstick it if it does.
check your ground cable to the bottom of the engine.

And it sounds like your battery aint taken a charge.
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Reply #4 - 09/21/09 at 18:15:57
 
Sounds like time for a new battery.  Had this exact issue.  Bike would start when jumped, but otherwise nothing.  Had a good spendy battery, but took it in and the water level was down to the lead plates. Pretty much shot. Bought a maintenance free, charged it up, and riding with no problems now.  

(Problem stems from a 1-mile ride to and from work, and home and back for lunch, 5 days a week.  Not enough to recharge.  Really wears it down. *i think I know what I'm talking about, but I may be way off...*)

A $30-40 battery tender should keep it good.  And get a set of motorcycle jumper cables (getting car cables on the Savage is a lady canine).
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Reply #5 - 09/21/09 at 18:49:34
 
The battery mite be junk, true enough, but this bike quit running while running fast down the freeway if I remember. A bad battery will not cause the bike to quit running, as it will keep running on the charging system if the battery failed completely. This bike has a connection failure somewhere.
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Reply #6 - 09/21/09 at 19:04:23
 
when you charge the battery back up, these kinds of starts can make the solenoid stick.  give the fender a whack to unstick it if it does.
check your ground cable to the bottom of the engine.


Sure, I'll give that a go as well. Can you be more specific on where to hit it? And even if the batt is dead wouldn't the car batt provide enough juice to at least get her tryin?
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Reply #7 - 09/21/09 at 19:06:59
 
A savage won't run at all with a dead (fused) battery,
unlikely but maybe battery finally croaked while on the
highway, but then again maybe it just has loose connections.

I suggest all of you to buy yourselves a multimeter, amazon
has one for $6 bucks, I have a very similar model and works
fine after 4 or 5 years and they are really handy, here:
http://www.amazon.com/Unknown-MAS830B-Digital-Multimeter-Tester/dp/B00066ZZO4...


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Reply #8 - 09/21/09 at 19:30:26
 
disconnect the bike battery altogether.
use jumpers to hook up the bike the car battery (yes I have)
should run like this, if it don't guess what?
meanwhile charge the bike battery and take it down to autozone or the like and get it tested.
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Reply #9 - 09/25/09 at 16:14:30
 
Well I know this sounds dumb..  But did you check to make sure the battery cables are on good and tight?  I had this problem last week and left the bike sit.  I just didn't have time to tinker as I had alot of repairs to do on the house and my toddler demands attention.  Today went out to figure out the "mysterious" electrical problem that was amazingly similar to yours.  I noticed the first thing when taking the battery out that the negative terminal was all corroded.  

Obviously it wasn't tight enough and therefore was causing the click, what appeared to be total discharge and then nothing. (Bad connection).. Pulled the battery out cleaned it, took it over to the charger that instantly said it was full..  Then went back to the bike and wow.. It worked.. Roll Eyes


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Reply #10 - 09/25/09 at 19:28:06
 
Clean & tight connections matter.
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Reply #11 - 09/26/09 at 09:50:09
 
Somebody posted a while back about scrubbing the battery terminals with baking soda + water.... I grabbed a toothbrush last week and did some battery cleaning... the baking soda+water does well at removing corrosion from the terminals and just generally cleaning up the + and - connection areas to the battery.

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Reply #12 - 09/26/09 at 10:42:20
 
I hope you cleaned her toothbrush up when you were done.
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Reply #13 - 09/27/09 at 02:43:11
 
It's best to use the wive's
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