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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: tire recommendations? Reply #15 - 08/17/09 at 20:54:26 d404 140/90-15 make the speedo read right on. I have a Veypor electronic speedo to prove it.
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Reply #16 - 08/17/09 at 20:54:49

youzguyz wrote on 08/17/09 at 08:56:28:

For you people running the MT66, please let everyone (especially me!) know what kind of mileage you get out of them. YES, I know that my mileage may vary.
I got 20k out of the rear on my Metzeler ME880, and the front is still going strong.
I've heard that the MT66 has handling similiar to the ME880, and I could be tempted by the MT66 if the mileage is good enough.

Seems to me the ME880's still hold the crown of solid wet performance, high mileage, and fine handling - but as was pointed out if a person doesn't ride very much they'll dry out before they wearout

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Reply #17 - 08/18/09 at 16:23:21

verslagen1 wrote on 08/17/09 at 20:54:26:

d404 140/90-15 make the speedo read right on.

I have a Veypor electronic speedo to prove it.

that's probably just for the d404's, right? cause a 140/90 should definitely be bigger around than a 140/80 from what I understand about tire sizes. but I'm definitely no expert.

I haven't been too impressed with a lot of the reviews I've read online for the d404's (although I know everyone's biased). I'd consider buying a 140/90, but I really don't want to throw off my speedo, even a little bit, if I can help it.

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Reply #19 - 08/18/09 at 16:51:49

Reelthing wrote on 08/17/09 at 20:54:49:

youzguyz wrote on 08/17/09 at 08:56:28:

For you people running the MT66, please let everyone (especially me!) know what kind of mileage you get out of them. YES, I know that my mileage may vary.
I got 20k out of the rear on my Metzeler ME880, and the front is still going strong.
I've heard that the MT66 has handling similiar to the ME880, and I could be tempted by the MT66 if the mileage is good enough.

Seems to me the ME880's still hold the crown of solid wet performance, high mileage, and fine handling - but as was pointed out if a person doesn't ride very much they'll dry out before they wearout

Very good point. No sense spending the good money for a tire that will dry out before wear out!
Fortunately, I doubt I will ever have that problem! Cheesy

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Reply #20 - 08/18/09 at 16:56:46

Bryan wrote on 08/18/09 at 16:23:21:

I'd consider buying a 140/90, but I really don't want to throw off my speedo, even a little bit, if I can help it.

The speedo is the least reason I can think of to buy one tire over another. If you want accuracy, get a bicycle speedo, or some other electronic variant that you can dial in to the tire you DO put on. OR, just put on the tire that works right for you in cost, performance, etc, and then relabel your speedo with a marker or something.
The only real issue with mounting a 140/90 is you might rub the bolts up under the fender if you have saddlebag brackets installed. If you do, grind them down or install bolt with a flatter head.

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Reply #21 - 08/18/09 at 20:05:11

Okay, so I think I've finally decided on the Metzeler 880's.

As far as tubes go, do these look okay?

Bikemaster 100/90 19 PV-6
Bikemaster 140/90 15 PV-78

I'm particularly curious cause I want to make sure a 140/90 tube will fit a 140/80 tire. I also want a rear tube with a 90 degree bend, but I see the PV-78 and also TR-87 and TR-87C. It's confusing with all the different valve stem types and whatnot, and then I see some tubes are measured differently, like 5.50, inches maybe? Sorry so many questions, but I just wanna make sure I get it right the first time. You're all really helpful.

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Reply #22 - 08/19/09 at 02:40:15

Bryan wrote on 08/18/09 at 20:05:11:

Okay, so I think I've finally decided on the Metzeler 880's.

As far as tubes go, do these look okay?

Bikemaster 100/90 19 PV-6
Bikemaster 140/90 15 PV-78

I'm particularly curious cause I want to make sure a 140/90 tube will fit a 140/80 tire. I also want a rear tube with a 90 degree bend, but I see the PV-78 and also TR-87 and TR-87C. It's confusing with all the different valve stem types and whatnot, and then I see some tubes are measured differently, like 5.50, inches maybe? Sorry so many questions, but I just wanna make sure I get it right the first time. You're all really helpful.

Those tubes are fine. Don't forget to buy new rim strips too!

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PTRider Senior Member Offline Posts: 397	Re: tire recommendations? Reply #23 - 08/19/09 at 07:31:21 Here's an innertube size conversion chart from inch sizes to metric sizes. The 140/80-15 & 140/90-15 tires take the same tube, 5.50/6.00-15, and the 100/90-19 takes 3.25/3.50-19. Buy your tube listed in either system. http://www.pureoffroad.com/kenda_standard_motorcycle_tubes.htm
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Reply #24 - 08/19/09 at 07:51:02

I put a bikemaster in my wife's S40 rear and I wish I had paid more at another shop for a tube with the 90 deg. stem. I only have one air gauge I can easily get onto her rear tire's stem. I keep a 1.99 gauge in my bike, but it won't work on her tire, but is just fine for my rear that has a 90deg. stem.

The front is no problem for a strait stem, but a 90 would probably be preferred as well.

Hope this helps!

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Reply #25 - 08/19/09 at 09:29:16

I see that there's no mention of Continental Conti Blitz tires which is what I have. They came with the bike (Po said they were new) and I've put about 7000 miles on them.

The front tire is still fat with tread and in no need of replacement. Rear tire is just starting to thin out, more along the sides from my knee dragging tendencies and obviously holding the bulk of the weight. Good tires though, I'm replacing the rear with the exact same one. Held up fine riding in the rain at 70-75 mph on the highway.

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Reply #26 - 08/19/09 at 11:39:57

Bryan wrote on 08/18/09 at 16:23:21:

verslagen1 wrote on 08/17/09 at 20:54:26:

d404 140/90-15 make the speedo read right on.

I have a Veypor electronic speedo to prove it.

that's probably just for the d404's, right? cause a 140/90 should definitely be bigger around than a 140/80 from what I understand about tire sizes. but I'm definitely no expert.

I haven't been too impressed with a lot of the reviews I've read online for the d404's (although I know everyone's biased). I'd consider buying a 140/90, but I really don't want to throw off my speedo, even a little bit, if I can help it.

Any tire with the same OD will give you the same results.
The d404's don't do well on heavier bikes as far as I can see. I've been getting 8 to 10k miles from the 3 sets I've had. The Metz are good tire, but don't get any from brazil though.

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Reply #27 - 08/19/09 at 11:43:34

vhfkid wrote on 08/19/09 at 07:51:02:

I put a bikemaster in my wife's S40 rear and I wish I had paid more at another shop for a tube with the 90 deg. stem. I only have one air gauge I can easily get onto her rear tire's stem. I keep a 1.99 gauge in my bike, but it won't work on her tire, but is just fine for my rear that has a 90deg. stem.

The front is no problem for a strait stem, but a 90 would probably be preferred as well.

Hope this helps!

VHFKID

Yeah, I've heard a lot about the 90 degree stem (and experienced the frustration of not being able to get to the rear stem myself). That's why I asked about the Bikemaster 140/90 15 PV-78 tubes; the PV-78 is a 90 degree stem. I just wasn't sure if it was the standard size, cause I also saw TR-87 and TR-87C are 90 degree stems, and it was hard to find somewhere that explained all the stem types. I just want a normal stem (with a 90 degree bend, of course) that I won't have any problems with if I need to put air in my tires at a gas station.

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jabman Senior Member Offline Posts: 411 England Gender:	Re: tire recommendations? Reply #28 - 08/19/09 at 13:31:49 the problem im having with tyres right now is the rear mt66 tyres are tubeless, they do do a tubed front. the people hear say a tubeless tyre is fine on are rims if you use a tube in them. can you get a tubed mt66 rear in the US?
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serenity3743 Serious Thumper Offline Striving to better, oft we mar what's well Posts: 778 Black Mountain, NC Gender:	Re: tire recommendations? Reply #29 - 08/19/09 at 13:53:12 You can always put a tube in a "tubeless" tire.
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