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Riding Two Up ?
05/26/09 at 09:25:42

Your opinions please ... I bought a new 2007 S40, and really love the bike. Currently have about 3500 miles on the bike, but have yet to take my wife for a ride. I'm concerned whether the bike can really handle two adults, and wanted your opinions based on experience riding two up. Regarding Gross Weight, I go about 145 lbs. and my wife is about 125 lbs. Intention is not for any type of long trips, just for some local "Relaxation Rides". Thank you in advance for any advice, comments, etc. ........ Rich
P.S. If your opinions are negative, my plan is maybe to trade up for the S50???

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Moofed Full Member Alliance Member Offline ...and the engine just gleams... Posts: 148 Bloomington, Indiana Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #1 - 05/26/09 at 09:31:25 Your 2up weight is well within the specs, so no worries there. Just inflate the rear tire a little bit (~36psi) and bump the preload on the rear shocks up a couple notches. That said, I've heard that it isn't the most comfy ride back there, but I don't know first hand.
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SavageDanny Full Member Offline I ate what? Posts: 206 Kansas City, Missouri Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #2 - 05/26/09 at 09:39:20 Moofed wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:31:25: Your 2up weight is well within the specs Any idea what the specs are?
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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #3 - 05/26/09 at 09:52:37 I weight about 170ish and my Wife is around 110ish if that and the bike does just fine. In fact with my Wife and I on, I can still go faster than my Dad's with just him on it and we weight more added together than he does. You'll be fine. It actually handles better I think with two ppl on.
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Rogue_Cheddar Serious Thumper Offline Hang up the phone and drive! Posts: 725 Haverhill, Massachusetts Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #4 - 05/26/09 at 10:00:48 I weigh around 195 and the wife, well. lets' just say it's a secret. We've done 50 + mile day trips, while not comfortable, quite doable. The bike will handle it no problem, your wife's backside, may say otherwise.
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Reply #5 - 05/26/09 at 10:08:49

There are 3 weights when referring to a vehicle.
1. Dry weight - stock - no fluids - 352 pounds
2. Curb weight - stock - with fluids, ready to ride - 381 pounds
3. Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) The total weight the vehicle can carry which includes, the mototcycle itself, passengers, fluids, mods, luggage, pets, dirt, etc. I know I have seen this spec for the Savage, but I can't find it now. Maybe in Clymers or the SSM? Somewhere around 680 pounds if memory serves me.. (doubtful at my age)
Oh well.. Tongue

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serenity3743 Serious Thumper Offline Striving to better, oft we mar what's well Posts: 778 Black Mountain, NC Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #6 - 05/26/09 at 10:20:09 Rogue Cheddar, did you say somethin' 'bout my wife's backside?!?!
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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #7 - 05/26/09 at 10:22:52 Back seat part is HARD, and sucks to ride on for a long time.
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Reply #8 - 05/26/09 at 10:32:49

youzguyz wrote on 05/26/09 at 10:08:49:

There are 3 weights when referring to a vehicle.
1. Dry weight - stock - no fluids - 352 pounds
2. Curb weight - stock - with fluids, ready to ride - 381 pounds
3. Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) The total weight the vehicle can carry which includes, the mototcycle itself, passengers, fluids, mods, luggage, pets, dirt, etc. I know I have seen this spec for the Savage, but I can't find it now. Maybe in Clymers or the SSM? Somewhere around 680 pounds if memory serves me.. (doubtful at my age)
Oh well.. Tongue

I think it's stamped on the frame. On the head tube I think. I will check when I get home this afternoon. Take that, subtract the Curb Weight and that should be what the Savage can carry, right?

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DavetheDog YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 37 Richmond, VA Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #9 - 05/26/09 at 10:45:25 According to my '98 savage the weights are listed as follows: Gross Vehicle Weight- 785 lbs. Gross axle weight at front axle is 265 lbs. Gross axle weight at rear axle is 520 lbs. This is assuming a tire inflation of 29psi in the front and 36 in the rear.
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Duane Senior Member Offline Creatively Maladjusted Posts: 335 Terra Plane Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #10 - 05/26/09 at 12:48:46 You will be fine of weight. I find me and my wife don't have much wiggle room though. The seat is not the best, but I have a older model with the sissy bar. I don't know about the newer seat.
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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: Riding Two Up ? Reply #11 - 05/26/09 at 12:49:52 New seat sucks really bad on the back. I went for a ride a long time ago with my Dad and I didn't make it more than 8 miles and I was DONE.
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Reply #12 - 05/26/09 at 13:36:28

SavageDanny wrote on 05/26/09 at 10:32:49:

youzguyz wrote on 05/26/09 at 10:08:49:

There are 3 weights when referring to a vehicle.
1. Dry weight - stock - no fluids - 352 pounds
2. Curb weight - stock - with fluids, ready to ride - 381 pounds
3. Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) The total weight the vehicle can carry which includes, the mototcycle itself, passengers, fluids, mods, luggage, pets, dirt, etc. I know I have seen this spec for the Savage, but I can't find it now. Maybe in Clymers or the SSM? Somewhere around 680 pounds if memory serves me.. (doubtful at my age)
Oh well.. Tongue

I think it's stamped on the frame. On the head tube I think. I will check when I get home this afternoon. Take that, subtract the Curb Weight and that should be what the Savage can carry, right?

Correct. So, (using DavetheDog's numbers)
785-381 = 404 pounds for people, gear, etc. (Not that your bike is going to LIKE hauling that much.. but it can)

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Reply #13 - 05/26/09 at 16:06:21

I'm 254lbs the last time I checked, and I rode two up with my brother a couple of times and he is over 200lbs as well (don't know exact number) The point being, the FireLizard pulled us both around with no trouble, but I definitely would NOT recommend doing such weight on a constant basis. With that much weight, the front end (even with my heavy girder front end) was extremely light and did not have much control.

Lighter riders and passengers should not have that trouble however.

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Reply #14 - 05/26/09 at 17:59:56

Yonuh Adisi FSO wrote on 05/26/09 at 16:06:21:

I'm 254lbs the last time I checked, and I rode two up with my brother a couple of times and he is over 200lbs as well (don't know exact number) The point being, the FireLizard pulled us both around with no trouble, but I definitely would NOT recommend doing such weight on a constant basis. With that much weight, the front end (even with my heavy girder front end) was extremely light and did not have much control.

Lighter riders and passengers should not have that trouble however.

Hey Yonuh! Got any pics of you and your bros. Two up? lol.
Here is what I just received in the mail for my rear seat. I tried it on the saddle as a tester today and it helped distribute the vibes quite a bit. It is however intended for the passenger seat. My lady should like it as it widens the seating area. I will test it out on our date night this friday and keep you all posted as to how she likes it.
http://www.seatsaddle.com/

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