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Speed pins
05/26/09 at 03:29:43

For you fellows who substituted speed pins (aka quick pins, ball lock pins, ball detent pins, fast pins) for the bolts on your seat; what size did you use, and did you sub all three bolts, or just the two on the side?
Wanting to get to the hardware store today. I have the seat off, and I swear I DO NOT want to put the %*#@# bolts back on that thing unless I absolutely have to. ARGH! PITA, PITA, PITA! Angry

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prechermike Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Kalashna Kitty, from Skat Posts: 1190 Ponzer, NC Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #1 - 05/26/09 at 03:39:15 I just did the two on the sides. I got 1/4 pins (I think, if no one else replies, holler back and I will go check) and had to drill out the threads/holes just a shade. It is SO much easier to get the things off and especially back on.
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Duane Senior Member Offline Creatively Maladjusted Posts: 335 Terra Plane Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #2 - 05/26/09 at 05:34:51 Some one should post a pic, I'd like to see how it looks/works.
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Mr. Hyde Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 565 Kingston, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #3 - 05/26/09 at 05:47:34 I second Duane's request.
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Re: Speed pins
Reply #4 - 05/26/09 at 06:33:30

OK Guys,

Here is what I did and what it looks like.

You really cannot see the pins with the saddle bags in place.

I took the seat off, got two 1/4 inch ball detent pins from the hardware store. The bolt is metric, but metric stuff is hard to come by. Those were the closest I could find. I then had to drill out the holes the bolts went into, basically just knocking off a tad of the threads so the pins would fit in.

There was nothing to it. To take off the seat simply pull the pins, to put it back on, line the pins up and stick them in. They are tight, I have had no problems of any kind with this.

I think that verslagen did some kind of pin mod as well, but I did not search for it.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28788 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #5 - 05/26/09 at 07:38:20 Sportster seat mod These are push to release type speed pins
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savagedml Full Member Offline Paid Alliance Membership (07/09) Posts: 246 Portsmouth, VA Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #6 - 05/26/09 at 08:48:12 Man, what a great idea! That should have been obvious to someone that worked many early years in a hardware store. I can't believe it never struck me before, but I guarantee you I'll be stopping by the store on the way home from school today! Thanks again for pics of yet another Savage "smart mod".
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Duane Senior Member Offline Creatively Maladjusted Posts: 335 Terra Plane Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #7 - 05/26/09 at 08:51:06 Looks like a great idea. I don't mind my seat in the stock position. Would like some springs but don't want to loose my back seat.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28788 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #8 - 05/26/09 at 08:56:05 I can still get the speed pins I used, not exactly the one pictured. I'll have to check on the price but I think $10 to 15 per pair shipped.
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prechermike Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Kalashna Kitty, from Skat Posts: 1190 Ponzer, NC Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #9 - 05/26/09 at 09:06:43 I just picked mine up at the hardware store, alot cheaper.
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serenity3743 Serious Thumper Offline Striving to better, oft we mar what's well Posts: 778 Black Mountain, NC Gender:	Re: Speed pins Reply #10 - 05/26/09 at 09:14:01 I can't tell, PrecherMike: What holds them in? Just friction or are they threaded? I'm guessing on Verslagen's they have a little ball on the end that engages and releases based on the position of the pin??...Guy
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Re: Speed pins
Reply #11 - 05/26/09 at 09:22:54

serenity3743 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:14:01:

I can't tell, PrecherMike: What holds them in? Just friction or are they threaded? I'm guessing on Verslagen's they have a little ball on the end that engages and releases based on the position of the pin??...Guy

Prechermike's are retained by a springloaded detent ball... takes a good tug to remove them... Verslagen's when you push the center pin in, a groove in the pin allows the ball to slide into the outer pin body, very positive retention...

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Re: Speed pins
Reply #12 - 05/26/09 at 09:40:48

marshall13 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:22:54:

serenity3743 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:14:01:

I can't tell, PrecherMike: What holds them in? Just friction or are they threaded? I'm guessing on Verslagen's they have a little ball on the end that engages and releases based on the position of the pin??...Guy

Prechermike's are retained by a springloaded detent ball... takes a good tug to remove them... Verslagen's when you push the center pin in, a groove in the pin allows the ball to slide into the outer pin body, very positive retention...

Marshall is right, it takes a very deliberate pull or push to get them in or out. I was a little concerned about them falling out and I checked them alot to begin with, but now I have no worries with them.

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Re: Speed pins
Reply #13 - 05/26/09 at 09:57:45

prechermike wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:40:48:

marshall13 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:22:54:

serenity3743 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:14:01:

I can't tell, PrecherMike: What holds them in? Just friction or are they threaded? I'm guessing on Verslagen's they have a little ball on the end that engages and releases based on the position of the pin??...Guy

Prechermike's are retained by a springloaded detent ball... takes a good tug to remove them... Verslagen's when you push the center pin in, a groove in the pin allows the ball to slide into the outer pin body, very positive retention...

Marshall is right, it takes a very deliberate pull or push to get them in or out. I was a little concerned about them falling out and I checked them alot to begin with, but now I have no worries with them.

wait til they corrode a little...lol might want to get in the habit of lubing the balls when you pull them... do you think the strains of slapping them in and tugging them out may eventually cause the seatpan brackets to loosen?

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Re: Speed pins
Reply #14 - 05/26/09 at 10:04:55

marshall13 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:57:45:

prechermike wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:40:48:

marshall13 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:22:54:

serenity3743 wrote on 05/26/09 at 09:14:01:

I can't tell, PrecherMike: What holds them in? Just friction or are they threaded? I'm guessing on Verslagen's they have a little ball on the end that engages and releases based on the position of the pin??...Guy

Prechermike's are retained by a springloaded detent ball... takes a good tug to remove them... Verslagen's when you push the center pin in, a groove in the pin allows the ball to slide into the outer pin body, very positive retention...

Marshall is right, it takes a very deliberate pull or push to get them in or out. I was a little concerned about them falling out and I checked them alot to begin with, but now I have no worries with them.

wait til they corrode a little...lol might want to get in the habit of lubing the balls when you pull them... do you think the strains of slapping them in and tugging them out may eventually cause the seatpan brackets to loosen?

Lubing is probably a good idea, I will do that when I put them back in now. I have not seen any change in the brackets, they seem to be just like they were when I started, but I will keep an eye on them.

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