right so...im extremely confused and don't know if I missed the point of this conversion or not...From multiple references on this thread I assumed the purpose of this mod was to lose the tubes. So I set out to do so using onederers example of gs450 wheels. Everything finally arranged and time to fill up the tires before putting the wheels back on the bike...they wont hold air. I just looked at the microfiche for gs450 wheels. They call for tubes. WTF!?
Verslagen - ..."Cleaned up the rim, mounted a new D404 (he he tubeless) ..." - Granted he used different wheels BUT
Onederer wrote on 03/15/08 at 09:14:51:rigidchop wrote on 03/15/08 at 07:22:20:that looks really good. could you post a side shot of the whole bike? what was the weight difference between spoked and cast wheels?
Thanks. I'll post a whole side pic of the bike when I get the rear done.Kinda like a grand unveiling. I think the weight is close to same, but the mass is more centalized on the cast wheel. I only guessed weight difference on wheels by holding them without rotor, and tire on each, and both felt close. The difference is the tube and rotors. The GS rotor I used weighs more than the standard Savage, but the Savage rotor and tube combined more than make up for the difference. I used a bungie cord to hang these from, then measured the distance to the floor, crude, but it showed the Savage rotor and tube combined, weigh 4" more
. Loosing the tube helps centralize the mass, and should allow for an acceleration increase. I did'nt have an accurate scale, so it would be interesting to really know the wieght difference. If the whole set up is lighter, then the whole suspension should also work better.
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/08 at 21:25:20:I too have worn out 2 sets of d404's.
I was thinking of going to metzler but I'm making an effort to reinvent the wheel. I've got a gs450 alloy rim on the front... tubeless! And I'm working on the rear. So didn't want a long lasting tire.
Onederer also directly said in the thread cast/alloy wheels "yes, they're tubeless."
I hope I'm missing something and didnt waste all this effort and money for some ugly wheels with no benefit but it's looking like he was full of crap and i got in over my head.