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Do I really need more power?
08/29/07 at 13:18:13

Well, I had my bike apart again this morning. This time, I was putzing with the carb.

I had the intention of re-jetting and adding a k&n cone filter direct to the intake.

I was thinking of a 152.5 main and a 55 pilot with the k&n cone.

BUT:

When I went to the stealership, I was disappointed that they had nothing that I wanted. They had a 155 main, but it was a narrow head. They were out of narrow head 55 pilots too. Neither did they carry any of the k&n products. (sucky service department. They never have anything in stock!)

So that leads me to ask the question. Is it really worth the money and time to tweak the carb beyond stock (without benefit of changing the exhaust)?

If so, where can I get the part numbers or the parts?

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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	I really need more power! Reply #1 - 08/29/07 at 14:49:07 Whether or not you need more power depends on what you want to do on the motorcycle. How bad to you want to be?
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PhotoProf Full Member Offline Only the mediocre are always at their best! Posts: 124	Re: Do I really need more power? Reply #2 - 08/29/07 at 14:54:34 I'm pretty happy with stock! Good mileage and performance... but I'm not running other bikes off the line or trying to hit a ton.
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Reply #3 - 08/29/07 at 19:00:22

i don't know that I really want any more power... I just like wrenching on stuff!

That said, I managed to find a 55 pilot jet and installed it earlier tonight.

That by itself made a HUGE difference!

I already did the white spacer mod and it improved ther throttle response and nearly eliminated the cold-start surging that everyone laments.

Well, with the 55 pilot jet, the cold-start surging is gone. Bye Bye. So is the 1-2 back-fire as well as the 'honey, i'm home' backfire when I shut the bike off.

Still, I want to wrench on it.

Say i get the 152.5 main jet and the K&N cone filter. Are there any drawbacks to that? (does it bog down in wet weather riding?) What will the larger main do to my gas mileage.

Keep in mind, I'm not racing the bike and rarely spend much time above 65mph.

That said, does anyone have the k&n part number for the cone filter that will fit?

(I think I'm going to get me a sportster exhaust in the near future, so these teaks should be beneficial, no?)

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Reply #4 - 08/29/07 at 19:15:10

skrapiron -FSO wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

i don't know that I really want any more power... I just like wrenching on stuff!

Since wrenching to produce less power/ridability is kinda stupid you don't have much choice, eh?

Unless you start pushing excessive fuel thru the system, your mileage will not suffer. The two main killers of fuel mileage are wind resistance (goes up with the square of the speed) and how often you run WOT.

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Do I really need more power? Reply #5 - 08/29/07 at 19:31:29 What is the OD" on the filter side of the stock carb? Is it 57mm?
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skrapiron -FSO Serious Thumper Offline Instant Human.... Just add coffee.. Posts: 1456 Pittsburgh, Pa Gender:	Re: Do I really need more power? Reply #6 - 08/30/07 at 12:19:19 yes, It is a 57mm opening.
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Reply #7 - 08/30/07 at 12:43:41

This is from the following link page...

http://www.4filters.com/KN-Round-Tapered_c_15-1.html

RC-1250 2.25 in (57 mm) 3.5 in (89 mm) 2 in (51 mm) 4 in (102 mm) Metal 0.625 in (16 mm) 0 degrees 0 in (0 mm)
RC-1252 2.25 in (57 mm) 3.5 in (89 mm) 2 in (51 mm) 4 in (102 mm) Metal 0.625 in (16 mm) 0 degrees 0 in (0 mm)
RC-1253 2.25 in (57 mm) 3.5 in (89 mm) 2 in (51 mm) 4 in (102 mm) Metal 0.625 in (16 mm) 0 degrees 0 in (0 mm)
R-1260 2.25 in (57 mm) 3.5 in (89 mm) 2 in (51 mm) 4 in (102 mm) Rubber 0.625 in (16 mm) 0 degrees 0 in (0 mm)
RU-3560 2.25 in (57 mm) 5.125 in (130 mm) 4.625 in (117 mm) 6 in (152 mm) Rubber 0.625 in (16 mm) 0 degrees 0 in (0 mm)

They have fairly decent prices

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BigWes Ex Member	Re: Do I really need more power? Reply #8 - 09/01/07 at 19:09:11 it doesnt really need more power. If you wanna faster cruiser, then get one. But the savages are easy enough to tweek a little. So if its not actualy the power ur after just the hobbie, then go for it
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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Do I really need more power? Reply #9 - 09/01/07 at 20:11:48 What if you want a faster cruiser while keeping under 400 pounds wet? Not all of us are up to muscling 500-600 pounds.
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