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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	kick stand switch? 08/22/07 at 18:10:31 how easily can i disable this switch ? i did a search and came up with nothing. i am only interested in getting rid of it, and the chopper diagram is confusing to me.
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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #1 - 08/22/07 at 19:29:29 With the kick stand up the switch is closed/shorted to complete the circuit. Means if you really want to do this, cut wires and connect together. Here come the std disclaimer: it's called a safety feature.......do this at your own risk......Sorry had to say that....
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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #2 - 08/22/07 at 19:41:20 i was gonna try that just didn't know if it would work or not. i usually ride my chop, and believe me there is a very little in the way of safety features on it. thanks .
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #3 - 08/22/07 at 21:22:43 There are actually photos of the wires on The Handyman's photo CD... Hint, hint...
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Re: kick stand switch?
Reply #4 - 08/22/07 at 21:49:54

When people install trailer wiring on cars they often use what I call a "saddle tap" to splice one wire into another. It allows one wire to pass thru & the other to butt into a stop, with a blad that presses thru the insulation on both wires & a clip that closes the apparatus on the wires. If ya open the end up that is supposed to just have a wire originate in that little cup & splice into the long wire running next to it, you can use the saddle tap to short 2 wires, & thats how I bypassed the switches on mine, That way, it can be reversed easily. If someone els is gonna ride it, you know.

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Re: kick stand switch?
Reply #5 - 08/22/07 at 22:11:14

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

When people install trailer wiring on cars they often use what I call a "saddle tap" to splice one wire into another. It allows one wire to pass thru & the other to butt into a stop, with a blad that presses thru the insulation on both wires & a clip that closes the apparatus on the wires. If ya open the end up that is supposed to just have a wire originate in that little cup & splice into the long wire running next to it, you can use the saddle tap to short 2 wires, & thats how I bypassed the switches on mine, That way, it can be reversed easily. If someone els is gonna ride it, you know.

Sounds like a quick trip to U-Haul to me.

Why would you want to punch holes in your wire insulation with any kind of "reversed easily" idea?

That way the next owner gets to figure out why the bike won't start, and all us old timers will be stuck trying to walk him through all the trouble shooting again...and it'll just be that his wires corroded away.

Let's get serious. You want to bypass the side stand switch? At least have a little style when doing it. Don't be lazy. Go under the tank and bypass the side stand relay.

What is going on here? Seems like everyone is just "rigging".

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Dr_Jim Ex Member	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #6 - 08/23/07 at 00:16:54 -
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DanGill Full Member Offline Posts: 222	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #7 - 08/23/07 at 06:10:39 A wire tie wouldn't help mine. The switch was dead, dead, dead. This happened on the first night I had the bike. I cut the wires and shorted them together with a crimp connector, then shrink-tubed the connection. I was too new to the bike to mess with the relay. I suspect my "fix" will outlast much of the bike.
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Ed L. Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline "We All go a Little Crazy Sometimes" Norman Bates Posts: 2808 Sunny Florida Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #8 - 08/23/07 at 15:35:03 All I did was pull the seat, cut the wires going to the switch, solder them together and covered the connection with shrink wrap tubing. Don't know where the relay is and am clueless as to how to bypass it.
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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #9 - 08/23/07 at 16:52:44 i was only asking for advice. didn't mean to offend any one, it's not like i'm gonna cut the wires, twist em together and hope for the best. i do have standards ya know, they might be low but i have em.
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Re: kick stand switch?
Reply #10 - 08/23/07 at 19:01:47

rigidchop,
Standards....you got that. I almost gave up telling people how I would do things because they think I'm nuts for doing all the detail.

What I would do in buy old wiring harness, or both ends of where KS swtch connects. Then would make a removeable switch assembly. I could bypass while I ride, or throw the hidden switch when the kid or friends ride it. But, if for some reason I need to sell the bike, unplug the assembly and it's factory again. An all original Antique bike can go for twice that of a modified bike, .... Yep, the 1986's are only 3 1/4 years from antique status.....

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rigidchop Serious Thumper Offline don't feed the drama llama Posts: 1105 ravenswood wv Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #11 - 08/23/07 at 19:20:01 i was thinking of putting a toggle switch some where as a hidden kill switch. if someone wants it they can still steal it, but they wont ride away on it.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #12 - 08/24/07 at 09:04:25 rigidchop wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08: i was thinking of putting a toggle switch some where as a hidden kill switch. if someone wants it they can still steal it, but they wont ride away on it. That's actually a very good idea.
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Re: kick stand switch?
Reply #13 - 08/24/07 at 16:42:41

Ed L. wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

All I did was pull the seat, cut the wires going to the switch, solder them together and covered the connection with shrink wrap tubing. Don't know where the relay is and am clueless as to how to bypass it.

I see that there's a kickstand relay, and a kickstand doide. 4 wires going to the relay. Which 2 do you cut and join? And is that bypassing the relay and doide or just the switch coming up from the kickstand? Any way to bypass the whole mess? I want to do it the best way, or at least not cutting the wrong 2 wires. (the red one.....no,no! the green!.....Kaboom!...).

That thing is startin' to p*ss me off.

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T Mack 1 - FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline sold 2001 LS650 for a 1986 XLH1100 Posts: 2919 Emmaus,Pa Gender:	Re: kick stand switch? Reply #14 - 08/24/07 at 19:57:47 On my '01, the kickstand switch wires go to a odd looking connector under the seat. That is where I would do any mod's.
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