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amcline

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my savage thread
02/10/07 at 03:18:33

edited as of now the savage is mine and the rebel is my wifes... also i have posted a link to our website for pics of our bikes and projects...
http://xdreamz.sslpowered.com/pictures/bike/bike.htm

hey all, we got my wife a 96 svage, we changed the pipe and noticed somone already did the carb mod, but they must have removed the whole spacer, now it runs like crap no matter the low speed setting, we want to buy an aftermarket carb but would be easier if somone has a spacer and could show a pic of where exactly it goes, that way we could atleast ride it a bit till we get the carb...
the new carb will be preset and fully tune-able for about 225 with filter...
Matt Cline

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barry68v10 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 955 Maryland Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #1 - 02/10/07 at 05:17:44 You can use a nylon washer from any hardware store in place of the spacer. In fact, many on this site got rid of the spacer and went to 1 or 2 nylon washers. Most think the spacer is too thick anyway. When you get this one tuned right, you might just decide to save the $240
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barry68v10 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 955 Maryland Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #2 - 02/10/07 at 05:19:45 Do a search on "white spacer" for more info. The washer is a #4...hope this helps.
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Reply #3 - 02/10/07 at 07:02:46

where are you at? carb adjustments have a ball park tuning, then a dial in tuning, depending on your specific engine mods, lacale, etc. you can use the search function and get alot if info, read some signature lines and see what a few of us ended up with, and in the tech section you'll find a very good tuning write up. if you list the specifics on your bike, we can help you dial it in. i personally HATE the stock cv style carb. i had ours pretty well dialed in, when the motor popped! but i was looking for a non-cv type replacement carb for it. lancer is the carb master in this matter, and sells a "ready to install" kit, which is a true solution.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #4 - 02/10/07 at 07:14:25 Here is Ron Ayers and a '96 carb...check it out. http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0271/carburetor/carburetor.cfm?man=su&group...
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Reply #5 - 02/10/07 at 07:19:52

Actually, I need soem stock carb help too...

Where is mine? And all of my jets and needles? I lst saw it right ebfore christmas, right before I went o to massachusetts. I was gonna take it home to help pops, but I couldn't fit it into my bag.

The spacer is part 6 in the microfiche greg psoted. I htink #3 or #4 washers will work as well.

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amcline

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Re: stock carb help
Reply #6 - 02/10/07 at 10:04:14

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:02:

Here is Ron Ayers and a '96 carb...check it out.

http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0271/carburetor/carburetor.cfm?man=su&group...

ok so the spacer were dealing with is part #6 in this breakdown right?
thats what i needed because i only dis-assembled it to clean and re-installed, the only engine mods i know of is the pipe we did, pulled off the stock can and put the red cherry bomb on it with a tab bent into the flow to add backpressure. anyone know the exact measurement of the stock spacer? i have a mocrometer i can use to file somthing to fit about half that measurement.

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amcline

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Re: stock carb help
Reply #7 - 02/10/07 at 10:37:30

i want to double check somthing, when i can ture the setscrew all the way closed on the #41 (right side of bike/carb) and it still runs that means either the carb is gunked up and leaking to run, or the midrange needle is not seating to where its saposed to.

correct?
i need to just pull it out and go thru it again, maybe i just didnt go as far as i should have when doing the tune up.
which now my plug is fouling so i need another one too. lol
the joys of tinkering!

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #8 - 02/10/07 at 13:20:29 Not 100% sure, but If the needle isn't seatting properly or at all, it cold easily mimmick having the throttle open a bit (i.e. the slide would be up but hte throttle plate (butterfly) closed). How long is the chery bomb? what kind of air intake?
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amcline

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Re: stock carb help
Reply #9 - 02/10/07 at 16:09:32

cherry bomb is 22.5" long 1 7/8" in 1.75" out
intake is stock with new filter.

i have the carb out now pulled totally apart all but the top the screws are froze in, i broke 3 phillips bits trying no luck, so i guess ill just clean it out good and re-install, maybe that will get it but im not seeing anything majorly wrong,
so i may grind in a flat slot to break those 4 screws loose, (well i got one out) and check for the spacer but i have an idea now since i didnt remove that cap before that since their so froze in maybe no on did remove the spacer, and i just got some gunk in the carb. it ran like hell last night, so i gotta do somthin, just not ready to buy the mikuni carb yet...

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #10 - 02/10/07 at 17:05:12 We've all had problems with these screws. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;n... and the consenses is replace them. and I say add a little anti-seize when you put em back in.
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Dynobob Serious Thumper Offline 2003 LS650 (with Supertrapp) Posts: 634 Northern Virginia Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #11 - 02/10/07 at 18:54:36 The screws are very soft and strip easily. Use pointy needle nose vice grips and replace them with stainless steel allen heads. You can order the white spacer from the dealer.
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amcline Ex Member	Re: stock carb help Reply #12 - 02/10/07 at 20:05:00 ok well i pulled the intake box out too to check the look of it without it, well 2 things, where can i get a nice clean sheet metal battery box, and why would there be a pint of raw gas in the air filters box,,, on the carb side. is it loading up that friggin bad or did i just have the fuel valve in the wrong position overnight...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: stock carb help Reply #13 - 02/10/07 at 20:23:26 check your petc0ck vacuum line... any gas in it? The diaphram does go bad. if so, it can cause rich running, or flooding. It can be disassembled to check it. Otherwise, check your carb float and needle valve. Or you did you leave it on prime?
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amcline Ex Member	Re: stock carb help Reply #14 - 02/10/07 at 20:26:27 yep i did,,, i remember switching from pri to on when i pulled the tank earlier.. o well. hey, what MM filter do i get i measured it at 2.25" i wanna leav off the filter box on re-assemblie
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