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Kropatchek Serious Thumper Offline Why more than 1 cylinder? Posts: 1457 Alphen a/d Rijn Netherlands Gender:	Re: Cam chain theory Reply #15 - 12/17/06 at 06:42:21 Reelthing wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12: Still trying to figureout what one gets for $355 price - do you have the kit in hand yet? Kit will be delivered in january, will keep you posted. Greetz Kropatchek
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Cam chain theory Reply #16 - 12/19/06 at 09:19:41 This seems like something 10 or 20 of us ought to order all at once... or one of us ought to buy 25 and sell them here...
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Reply #17 - 12/26/06 at 11:00:39

How much (how difficult is it) work is it to change the camchain and the tensioner.. Is it something that is pretty easy to do without complications or is it something that should be left to more skilled person? (I have the Clymer manual and have done div. things to the bike and its still alive..) How long should it take to change the chain? Novice - Expert ..

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Phelonius Ex Member	Re: Cam chain theory Reply #18 - 12/26/06 at 11:33:20 Do these problems apply to a 2006 S-40 boulavard model or has Suzuki sorted this out by the time mine was produced? Also does the 2006 DR 650SE suffer from this malady? I have one of each. Phelonius
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bentwheel Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ride free, citizen Posts: 658 Sarnia, Ontario, Canada Gender:	Re: Cam chain theory Reply #19 - 12/26/06 at 18:31:55 I don't think Suzuki has made any changes to the tensioner at any time during production. I think you are safe with the DR650, no problems there.
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Re: Cam chain theory
Reply #20 - 01/10/07 at 07:41:15

Update on the "Norbert" camchain tensioner.
http://www.ls-650.de/community/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1168393837

Short translation for those who are interested:

Price 146 Euros ( at 1.20 = 175US )

The oem tensioner can be used but the amount of travell will be extended. For those familiar with the inside of the engine, the brackets, laser-cut to 0.01 mm, are fitted to excisting tapped holes in the crankcase.
Normal wear on the chain will have to replace the chain at 20k Km. With this layout the expected life of the chain is estimated at 50 to 70k Km.
The adjustment with removed clutchcover has to be made around 20k and once adjusted the tensioner can not fall apart in 2 pieces anymore. He will make 15 sets.
Contact or post if you need more information
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Reply #21 - 01/10/07 at 07:48:19

These are pictures of the "Extended Version"

http://www.ls-650.de/community/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1165368220/15#15

Scroll to last post.

This has the shockdamper at the top and has to be adjusted on the bottom every 3000 Km.

Accoording Norbert this can be done without taking the clutchcover off although I don't know jet how that works.

FYI 3 sets are still available

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Re: Cam chain theory
Reply #22 - 01/10/07 at 13:31:16

Kropatchek wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

These are pictures of the "Extended Version"

http://www.ls-650.de/community/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1165368220/15#15

Accoording Norbert this can be done without taking the clutchcover off although I don't know jet how that works.

There's a picture on that page that looks like a bolt head coming through the cover. If it's anything like an old Honda GL500, you just loosen that bolt and the cam chain tensioner "slips" into a tighter position and takes out the slack in the chain. You then tighten the bolt and you're good to go for another 3000kms.

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Kropatchek Serious Thumper Offline Why more than 1 cylinder? Posts: 1457 Alphen a/d Rijn Netherlands Gender:	Re: Cam chain theory Reply #23 - 01/10/07 at 15:42:11 You'r right, that what I understand . Still don't know excactly how it works. ??? Will keep you posted Greetz Kropatchek
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28749 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam chain theory Reply #24 - 01/10/07 at 22:50:35 It's looks to me that the bolt head "NEDUR" shown on the cover is an access port. Remove it to get acess to the allen head screw underneath. Loosen that, adjust the tensioner, then retighten. Replace bolt, ride. What I'm concerned with is using a stretched chain for the additional mileage. What is it going to do to the sprockets?
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Re: Cam chain theory
Reply #25 - 05/28/16 at 14:22:48

IMHO all types of chains in general are available with different load characteristics. For ex bike chain, motorcycle chain, etc. Well Timing chain shouldn't be any different. If Suzuki would have used the next higher rated timing chain available then all these problems would be a moot point.

Only problem is they used this type (model) of chain so were stuck with using band aids to fix them.

We need to get a roll of Borg Warner Morse timing chain and make our own chains. This is the good stuff. Shocked

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