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tefinous

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air fuel screw
08/16/06 at 16:52:27

ok i know this is probably in the forums somewhere but i am getting wal-eyed from reading about the savage for the last 3 hours (very helpful stuff i might add) i bought my savage from a dealer used with one previous owner and i have since then installed a after market H.D. pipe (very loud) called a wild pig and am starting to do the carb work wel i have run into a problem and need a new air fuel screw for the idle mixture it is completly stripped out and i am gonna have to tap it and remove with a extractor i need to find out where to order a new air/fuel screw first though but havent had much luck...........

nik

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: air fuel screw Reply #1 - 08/16/06 at 17:13:02 bikerbandit.com or ronayers.com or your local stealer ship. Are you talking about the PMS screw? or are you talking about the air screws? See this thread in the tech sect. note the differences from year to year.
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tefinous Ex Member	Re: air fuel screw Reply #2 - 08/17/06 at 08:08:38 it would be the pilot screw or commenly refered to as the idle screw......thanks for the info mucho appreciated
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tefinous

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Reply #3 - 08/17/06 at 17:09:16

from the above link with the pictures of the carb. opened up it is refered to as the idle mixture screw not the idle speed screw. idle mixture is the one on the right side which is the one that is stripped out on my carb. give me a 1 being the easiest and a 10 being the hardest rating on the rejetting of the carb i mean i have never been into a carb before. are the jets in a sense just screwed into place or do they have all their own adjustments on each jet. i have the jet kit on the way and was gonna have the shope rework it for me for 150 but if it is just a remove and replace then i can do that. i have 6 years exp. as a mechanic working on garbage trucks but never opened a carb before. how hard could it be?????

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Reply #4 - 08/18/06 at 06:58:09

Rejetting is very easy but I haven't replaced the pilot adjustment screw. The jets are just a matter of dropping the float bowl off the bottom. You will probably want to replace the access screws with stainless allen screws for easier access later. The main jet is easily visible and just as easy to remove. The pilot jet is in a recess forward of the main jet and requires a smalled screwcriver to access. Mine was locked in place and stripped quickly. I just used an EZ-Out to remove it and then put the new one in. In general, you may have a tougher time just getting the four phillips screws out than actually rejetting. Some folks remove the battery box for access but I didn't have to. Also, some folks recommend loosening the clamps that hold the carb so that it can be rotated for easier access.

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babbalou Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 814 Lewisville, Texas Gender:	Re: air fuel screw Reply #5 - 08/18/06 at 18:49:15 I ordered a new pilot screw awhile back, BikeBandit or RonAyers, can't remember. Mine was stuck & I used a reverse drill bit to remove it. Broke off a chunk of aluminum but I JB Welded (glue) it back on & the screw threaded right in like new.
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tefinous Ex Member	Re: air fuel screw Reply #6 - 08/18/06 at 21:59:25 thanks for the sudgestion im gonna try it this tuesday and wednesday 2 days off in a row WOOHOO ill let ya know how it turned out and what i had to do lol nik
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JerryAssburger Ex Member	Re: air fuel screw Reply #7 - 08/19/06 at 23:07:34 Welcome to my problem, too, tefinous! It stinks when someone wastes the screw like that. How much is the new mixture screw?
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tefinous

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Reply #8 - 08/20/06 at 08:58:03

lets see i went to the local suzuki,yamaha, dealer and they had to order it straight from suzuki the screw itself for me was $7.50 i also ordered the spring, washer and o-ring and they were in order spring $3.25 washer $1.78 and o-ring was $3.78 i wanted to get all the related parts because i wasent sure what i might end up doing to have to remove the screw since it was striped out. i was pondering taking a small but sharp chisle to the screw with some light taps of the hammer to set a new groove in it fortunatly i have one in my box. i love reaping the benifits of being an ex-mechanic i still have over $10k worth of tools left............

nik

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tefinous

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Reply #9 - 08/20/06 at 09:09:29

[glow=red,2,300]"The main jet is easily visible and just as easy to remove. The pilot jet is in a recess forward of the main jet and requires a smalled screwcriver to access [/glow]."<--------------is a direct quote from savage-rob.....question are you saying that i should replace my pilot jet as well when i change my main jet or was that just a reference so that i might know which is which in relevence if the floats??????

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Reply #10 - 08/20/06 at 12:06:22

tefinous wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

[glow=red,2,300][i]question are you saying that i should replace my pilot jet as well when i change my main jet or was that just a reference so that i might know which is which in relevence if the floats?

Just telling you where it is. You shouldn't need to change the pilot jet unless you can't adjust the pilot circuit enough without changing it.

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tefinous

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Reply #11 - 08/20/06 at 22:38:45

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

Just telling you where it is. You shouldn't need to change the pilot jet unless you can't adjust the pilot circuit enough without changing it.

ok kewl thanks i didnt think i needed to.. the first thing i thought was oh crap i need to go out and spend more money....heck i spent about $225.00 so far on a new idle mixture screw, a o-ring,spring, and washer for the idle mixture and jet kit and 152.5 main, and a brand new barnett kevlar friction clutch disc's and oem steel clutch plates and new barnett clutch springs with 30% more stiffness for the clutch.........i figured this should make the savage happy for at least a few months until i need to replace the front brakes.........has anyone found a better braking system for the front i mean like maybe a set with larger than normal brake pads and maybe a oversized caliper and disc....just a curious question?????

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911radioman Ex Member	Re: air fuel screw Reply #12 - 08/20/06 at 22:40:26 I guess I'm the odd man out here, as I just don't see any problems with the braking system on the Savage -- front or rear.
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: air fuel screw Reply #13 - 08/21/06 at 06:11:56 I'm okay with it. I think it's just fine for the mass it's slowing/stopping. However, I will be installing ceramic pads at the next change.
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Re: air fuel screw
Reply #14 - 08/21/06 at 08:40:24

tefinous wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:

i love reaping the benifits of being an ex-mechanic i still have over $10k worth of tools left............

nik

Still have? You been selling them? Don't you know that as soon as you get rid of your tools, you will instantly become a mechanic again, and need to but them all over again? Grin

My pops sells Matco tools. He's seen this happen to many folks!

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