SuzukiSavage.com - Tire Question?

saabsaviur Ex Member	Tire Question? 01/06/06 at 21:41:15 Since owning my savage I baoght new tires for the first time the last ones on it had fibers showing through the bald spots :'( i have purchase two dunlops 404 they are marked tubeless and i know the savages have tubes is this a mistake or not a problem at all i m headed over to tommorow to a bike shop to have them mounted am i going to be humilated or not?
Back to top	IP Logged

Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #1 - 01/06/06 at 21:57:43 Those tires should be fine as long as you still use tubes. I may be old-fashioned in my thinking but I've never seen spoked rims without a tube. While you're replacing tires, replace the tubes too. They're not expensive and worth the peace of mind. You can keep the old tubes as road spares instead of a patch kit..
Back to top	1998\|MAC muffler\|ceramic coated header\|K&N air filter\|Amal Mk2 carb\|Odyssey battery\|iridium plug\|NC windshield\|Dunlop 491s\|Superbrace\|EBC brake rotor\|12.5" Progressive shocks\|Kuryakyn ISO grips IP Logged

klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #2 - 01/07/06 at 02:03:56 I have a 110/70/17 and a 140/70/17 on spoked rims, both using tubes, no problems. Clive W
Back to top	IP Logged

Digger

Serious Thumper
2005 No Login

Offline

Ya gotta be tough to
ride singles!

Posts: 1604
Colorado Springs, CO
Gender: male

Re: Tire Question?
Reply #3 - 01/07/06 at 11:16:58

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

Those tires should be fine as long as you still use tubes. I may be old-fashioned in my thinking but I've never seen spoked rims without a tube. While you're replacing tires, replace the tubes too. They're not expensive and worth the peace of mind. You can keep the old tubes as road spares instead of a patch kit..

Hi Rob,

There are some Beemers with spoked rims that use tubeless tires. I guess you can do these types of things when you charge what BMW does for a bike.

There may be other bikes out there that do this, I just can't remember any others off-hand.

Back to top

Digger
2001, Metallic Glacial Blue, Raptor Petcock, Verslavy (first hole) (otherwise, mechanically, the bike is stock), 13,xxx miles
I don't own a cage.
www.astronautbiker.com

IP Logged

Savage_Rob

Serious Thumper
Alliance Member

Offline

Mechanically
Inclined Amateur

Posts: 6972
Texas (Dallas area)
Gender: male

Re: Tire Question?
Reply #4 - 01/07/06 at 12:44:15

Digger wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

Hi Rob,

There are some Beemers with spoked rims that use tubeless tires. I guess you can do these types of things when you charge what BMW does for a bike.

There may be other bikes out there that do this, I just can't remember any others off-hand.

Hmm, that's interesting. I guess maybe the spokes are attached to studs on the rim or something instead of penetrating it like normal ones.

Back to top

IP Logged

saabsaviur Ex Member	Re: Tire Question? Reply #5 - 01/07/06 at 15:51:12 got my tires and wheels back and mounted on the bike no where in manuals does it say how tight to tighten the drive belt? the bike feels totally different like a different bike it turns so easy almost to easy kinda scary maybee the tires are overinflated.
Back to top	IP Logged

Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #6 - 01/07/06 at 17:02:05 there's the little gauge in the tool kit to measure - but rule of thumb that works well for us is to get it tight/loose enough that you can twist it 90degs check the presure for sure - 28-30lb/s front 32-34 rear
Back to top	IP Logged

saabsaviur Ex Member	Re: Tire Question? Reply #7 - 01/07/06 at 17:09:28 dont have oe tool kit but will deffinetly check into the that tool like should it be hard tot wst or just comfortable
Back to top	IP Logged

Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #8 - 01/07/06 at 17:12:50 fairly easy to twist is how I set it - the gauge actually will set it tighter than that but a tad on the loose side seems better
Back to top	IP Logged

bentwheel

Serious Thumper
2005 No Login

Offline

Ride free, citizen

Posts: 658
Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
Gender: male

Re: Tire Question?
Reply #9 - 01/09/06 at 12:16:01

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

Hmm, that's interesting. I guess maybe the spokes are attached to studs on the rim or something instead of penetrating it like normal ones.

Hey guys, check the spokes closely on a tubeless BMW wheel. You will notice the spokes are not centred , but on the edge of the rim. I believe the spoke nipples lie outside of the tire's bead therefore allowing the tire to be inflated without the need for a tube.

Back to top

Bentwheel FSO
2006 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
1977 Yamaha XS360
1972 Honda CL175

IP Logged

Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #10 - 01/09/06 at 14:14:19 Thanks for that image, Bentwheel.
Back to top	1998\|MAC muffler\|ceramic coated header\|K&N air filter\|Amal Mk2 carb\|Odyssey battery\|iridium plug\|NC windshield\|Dunlop 491s\|Superbrace\|EBC brake rotor\|12.5" Progressive shocks\|Kuryakyn ISO grips IP Logged

BS37066 Ex Member	Re: Tire Question? Reply #11 - 01/09/06 at 16:43:43 http://www.gadgetjq.com/tww.htm
Back to top	IP Logged

Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #12 - 01/10/06 at 05:26:33 BS37066 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01: http://www.gadgetjq.com/tww.htm I think I'll stick with tubes.
Back to top	1998\|MAC muffler\|ceramic coated header\|K&N air filter\|Amal Mk2 carb\|Odyssey battery\|iridium plug\|NC windshield\|Dunlop 491s\|Superbrace\|EBC brake rotor\|12.5" Progressive shocks\|Kuryakyn ISO grips IP Logged

Manxman YaBB Newbies 2005 No Login Offline Posts: 22 Gender:	Re: Tire Question? Reply #13 - 01/12/06 at 10:47:35 There is a company in California that will adapt motorcycle wire wheels for tubless tires: http://motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/wheelseal/ www.wheel-works.com
Back to top	IP Logged

PerrydaSavage

Serious Thumper
Alliance Member

Offline

Riding "The
Rock"!

Posts: 3522
Republic of Newfoundland
Gender: male

Re: Tire Question?
Reply #14 - 01/12/06 at 14:21:10

Speaking of tires ... a pal of mine just bought an old '86 Savage off of another pal of mine with the goal of resurrecting the old gal ... anyhoo, he just put some new rubber on the front; a 90/90 instead of the old stock 100/90 ... and IMHO, I think the new tire with the shorter sidewall looks incredible! How will this affect how the Savage rides and/or steers?

Back to top

Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by arseholes!

IP Logged