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National Coalition Against Censorship (an organization in the USA)

Susan wrote:
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A post that by Still Savage that was left intact:
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Susan,

I thought about what to write for a while before responding. Plenty of people come to the internet without common courtesy or respect for the other people who are affected by their conduct. This is a price that we pay. I don't think it necessarily justified the censorship placed on the forum. I think your reminder thread about forum conduct would have served to get the people who were sucked into the vortex to go back to their normal posts, and people who are just trying to annoy other members tend to go away when they are rightly ignored or requested to produce something substantial not just inflamatory retoric. No one was crying fire in a crowded theatre, and I don't think the forum was in danger of collapse, so I think the removal of the posts was pretty heavy handed. The post I chose above was from the thread that you cleaned up and is very obviously way off topic and could be considered offensive to a large part of the population, but it wasn't removed. I'm sure there are hundreds of other posts that are also off topic in this forum. I appreciate your attempt to restore order to the forum, and acknowledge your right to do so as an moderator, but I still question the means.

I'm not sure that he was referring to censorship (First ammendment of the US constitution) here, but Benjamin Franklin said:
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which also seems a little harsh. The internet is a rough place, but also a place of great freedom and a powerful tool.

Kevin

I believe the intent was to remove only those remarks with hateful intent.  Personally, I consider that to be light-handed as opposed to removing everything that might possibly offend someone somewhere.  I might be the exception rather than the rule there; I don't know.

Rob

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:


I agree and believe it was very tactfully handled kudos to Susan for the tasteful way in handling this. The way I understand it crude but funny commit allowed. Abuse is not. Just my 2˘

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I agree that Susan is doing a great job adn is pretty good at not coming across as mean with the so called censorship on this forum.

I belong to a couple other forums where I get the impression from most of the posts made by the moderator(s) that they like being an @sshole about what they consider being "off-topic" or "inappropriate."

Keep up the good work Susan!  

~ Munson

Susan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:


I agree...  besides..  lets use up the limited space we have in this forum to talk about our bikes and how to make them better... not get used by some people to make offensive comments and other useless stuff.
Just a thought.

Ride Safe!
Savi650

Hi there:

Being one of the guilty parties of losing it on this forum once, and then re-thinking my words, I fully understand how things can get blown out of proportion, and fists a blazing... I deleted most of my posts on the subject hours later, after I calmed down, and thought about my actions.
I fully agree with Susan, that there is no place for this behaviour on the forum. She deleted posts in an unbiased way, and gracefully as one can.

I say [glow=red,2,300]HATS OFF TO SUSAN FOR DOING A WONDERFUL
JOB. [/glow]
Not only is moderator a time consuming job, but the pay ain't that great either  


Cheers


Michael

Paladin. wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:08:


even when you think you do.....

Two more quotes - first one I don't know where it came from:

"Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots."

Second:

"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature,nor do the children of men as a whole experince it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" Helen Keller