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Reply #15 - 08/25/26 at 19:51:41
 
Re: Iran is Winning
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Needles
I have a question.

On Reply 7, with ALL those, 'news' companies.
Saying basically the same thing.

(And even a well known,
UL FDS DFI CHICKEN NOODLE NEWS,
         saying it)


       Are You are STILL
     believing it is not so ????

(Or you just doing your part,
in UPPING the post count,
so more adds can be used,
so more money can be made,
   Just like a intelligent
CONSERVATIVE would !!!!!!! )



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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Re: Iran is Winning
Reply #16 - 08/26/26 at 05:33:00
 
All WHAT "news companies"?

You never link your sources. It's almost like you KNOW they're propaganda...
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Re: Iran is Winning
Reply #17 - 08/26/26 at 07:36:56
 
All WHAT "news companies"?

You never link your sources. It's almost like you KNOW they're propaganda...


 The same one's you posted on this topic.

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Reply #18 - 08/26/26 at 08:24:17
 
No way to know that, not from what he posted. (Assuming he is a "he"...)
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Re: Iran is Winning
Reply #19 - 08/26/26 at 10:02:58
 

No way to know that, not from what he posted. (Assuming he is a "he"...)

 He provided the exact same amount of zero references and sources that you have: Words and no references.  It's almost like you KNOW your sources are propaganda.

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Reply #20 - 08/26/26 at 11:44:33
 
Eegore wrote on 08/26/26 at 10:02:58:
"...  zero references ..."


There was one (CNN)
described as: "CHICKEN NOODLE NEWS"
NO ULR LISTED.
Did not know someone could not figure that ONE OUT.

And from the ALL TIME LYING 'news'.
er PROPAGANDA. (chicken noodle news)
Iran has lost significant control of the Strait of Hormuz
By David Goldman Updated Aug 19, 2026. . . .


Next time, when I List several quotes, basically saying the same thing,  I will put the 'LINK' in the quotes also.

Just so a person, does not have to look up something, to see what is said.

(WAIT, if that person does NOT look it up,
they can say it is not a, "FACT")


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #21 - 08/26/26 at 12:25:34
 
My lack of references is a direct result of MAGAT incompetence and inability to check sources with critical thinking. In short, I originally provided references, but MAGATs are too stupid to discern the difference between Fox and anything truthful, so It was wasting my time. The sources that were provided were ridiculous. Now Sprung just posts sh1t that I have to assume is made-up lies.

I still start with facts. Y'all start with fantasy.
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Reply #22 - 08/26/26 at 12:45:40
 

My lack of references is a direct result of MAGAT incompetence and inability to check sources with critical thinking.

 As usual it is somebody else's fault you do what you do.  It's not your fault that you don't use the same standards you demand from others.  

 Shouldn't be hard to provide one source that isn't social media that actually claims Iran said they would close the Straight of Hormuz until Trump was out of office.
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Reply #23 - 08/26/26 at 12:47:09
 

(WAIT, if that person does NOT look it up,
they can say it is not a, "FACT")


 Seems like not Observing it removes it from their Observed Reality.  Maybe this is why Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for data.
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Reply #24 - 08/26/26 at 12:52:20
 
"As usual it is somebody else's fault you do what you do.  It's not your fault that you don't use the same standards you demand from others."

And the worshippers of Trumpedo, the Lyin' "King", aka Pedolf Shitler, lose their sh1t when someone BESIDES the Orange Jesus Pedophile does the things they worship him for...

That's why I don't argue with the morons; I just try to get them to realize how stupid their beliefs are. That does require critical thinking, though, so they'll probably never get it.
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Reply #25 - 08/26/26 at 13:11:58
 

And the worshippers of Trumpedo, the Lyin' "King", aka Pedolf Shitler, lose their sh1t when someone BESIDES the Orange Jesus Pedophile does the things they worship him for...

 Of course.  I have shown Obama era policy to plenty of Conservatives that are ok with it as long as they believe it is from Trump.  The second they learn it is Obama policy, it's "unconstitutional" among other nonsense.

 The same applies for some Biden supporters.  They lose their mind complaining about how horrible Trump policy is, when they are actually reading Biden policy.

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Reply #26 - 08/26/26 at 14:02:50
 
they're all opinions
"facts" can and are manipulated to express/fortify agendas
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Reply #27 - 08/26/26 at 14:15:24
 
they're all opinions
"facts" can and are manipulated to express/fortify agendas


 There has to be some objective truth or we would cease to function.  The unfortunate circumstance is so many people don't care about the truth unless it says what they want to be true.

 An example of a fact would be the video Needles provided of the UN Assembly.  That happened, and can be verified, however there are plenty of people that will deny it by refusing to Observe it, or claim it is all CGI deepfake.  

 Or that Iran said they will shut the Straight of Hormuz until Trump is out of office.  There is no verified statement like this, but if someone want's it to be true there is ample social media evidence.
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Reply #28 - 08/26/26 at 20:15:24
 
Eegore wrote on 08/26/26 at 14:15:24:
"... will deny it by refusing to Observe it ..."


Refusing to observing something,
is NOT, 'OBSERVING', something.

If someone says:
" the water level in the river is increasing "
" The water level in the river is decreasing

        BOTH can be  true.
(all sorts of ways and reasons that can happen)


How About, the,  "Netanyahu UN walked out affair.

The people in that room, OBSERVED the event, first hand.

The people not in that room, OBSERVED the event, via a recorded record.

Is one incorrect ?
Are both correct ?
Does being correct, depend on who is recording the affair ?

        Observed Reality is Valid.

If one does not, "OBSERVE",
      the happening.
It is a simple, 'NOT OBSERVING', the event.
It does not erase the "OBSERVED" happening.



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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #29 - 08/26/26 at 20:50:22
 
Refusing to observing something,
is NOT, 'OBSERVING', something.


 Exactly.  Refusing to Observe something is the act of not Observing something.


If one does not, "OBSERVE",
     the happening.
It is a simple, 'NOT OBSERVING', the event.
It does not erase the "OBSERVED" happening.


 Agreed.  This is why OBSERVED Reality is a poor qualifier for data.  If data is presented and it does not match my Observed Reality that does not make the data incorrect.

 If data is presented and it does match my Observed Reality, that does not make the data correct.  

 Using Observed Reality to decide if data is accurate is completely dependent on what one chooses to Observe.  Thus Observed Reality has no value in data interpretation and makes a poor argument for deciding if data presentations are accurate.
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