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Reply #15 - 06/08/25 at 14:42:47
 
Eegore do you work for Joe Friday, or Snopes?

Once in a while, I'd like to hear an opinion
Fact checks get a bit dry
Tell us what you really think
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!  Cool
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Reply #16 - 06/08/25 at 16:17:22
 

I post some things for information. I post some things for humor. I post some things just to make someone think. If that distresses you, perhaps you should learn the difference between the three.

 As I said, nobody is going to lose any sleep over this.  


He's still an elected guilty felon. There is no "precedent" for that. Period.

 We still can't change laws or how they are applied to an individualized standard because of that.  I'm not a fan of the SCOTUS ruling in regard to sitting or previous POTUS being given certain legal immunities, but I'm not going to go make up new ways to apply the law because I disagree with it.


Unrelated question: Why wasn't JOG's first post on this thread deleted outright for breaking the rules?  

 That's not the historical response on this forum.  Typically the thread is just locked, and enforcement is inconsistent.
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Reply #17 - 06/08/25 at 16:18:13
 

Eegore do you work for Joe Friday, or Snopes?


 I work for Joseph Saturday Snopes.
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Reply #18 - 06/08/25 at 16:45:16
 
Eegore wrote on 06/08/25 at 16:17:22:
Unrelated question: Why wasn't JOG's first post on this thread deleted outright for breaking the rules?  

 That's not the historical response on this forum.  Typically the thread is just locked, and enforcement is inconsistent.

These are extreme times
We have a President that calls people "Motherr Fu@kerrs" in public speeches and threatens violence against citizens

If Needles wants to PM me a complaint, I will talk to JoG
but I think Needles can take it
That being so,... I do ask that we all avoid personal attacks and be civil without vulgarity towards each other
I don't want to lose any contributors by over moderating or anyone feeling demeaned by my lack of moderation
It's a fine line
That said.... I would ban Trump if he were on here
How sad is that?

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Reply #19 - 06/09/25 at 06:38:21
 
Personally, I tend to apply the old rule of thumb: the person that resorts to name calling obviously LOST the argument.

I've been called worse, by people with even more limited world views.  Wink
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Reply #20 - 06/09/25 at 06:52:05
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/08/25 at 16:45:16:
"... I don't want to lose any contributors by over moderating  ..."


“… lose any contributors by over moderating  …”

And of course it all depends on which side of the fence you are on.

Some people, (on one side of the fence) are ALOUD to make ANY statement they want, to anyone, at any time, for any reason.
Using  ANY  kind of vulgar, demeaning, things or phrases.

Many people, (on the other side of the fence), get the ‘LOCK’ !
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Reply #21 - 06/09/25 at 07:15:09
 
If you have a specific complaint, PM me

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Reply #22 - 06/09/25 at 07:33:30
 

 I think some members (some members meaning all other members besides me) forget people PM on here regularly.  I have more PM discussions here than conversations on the open forum, mostly because they don't want to deal with all the whining, or "immature" comments.

 I do not know for sure, but I imagine most of the "LOCK"s are pm complaint driven.  I do not know this for sure.  To be clear this is not something I would know.



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Reply #23 - 06/10/25 at 14:03:49
 
DOGE found 99% efficiency in Medicare. They just caught another insurance CEO guilty of $1 billion. Whenever they try, they get caught. THAT's why the MAGAT infested GOP wants it gone.
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Reply #24 - 06/14/25 at 06:46:23
 
Undocumented immigrants paid an effective federal income tax rate of 5.27% in 2022. That means they paid a higher effective tax rate than 5 of the richest Americans…and a higher effective tax rate than 55 mega corporations.

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Reply #25 - 06/14/25 at 07:42:34
 
Undocumented immigrants paid an effective federal income tax rate of 5.27% in 2022. That means they paid a higher effective tax rate than 5 of the richest Americans…and a higher effective tax rate than 55 mega corporations.


 I think the concern is more about the percentage of total undocumented immigrants that paid taxes.  I think there are far more employers that pay undocumented immigrants by means of "standard" or trackable pay than cash under the table.  

 These claims that they none of them pay any taxes are nonsense.  This along with the misconception and refusal to acknowledge that they do not claim Social Security R benefits without ever "paying a dime into the system".  

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Reply #26 - 06/14/25 at 08:01:57
 
"... the majority of their tax contributions come from sales and excise taxes ..."
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Reply #27 - 06/14/25 at 20:09:23
 
Rate
5% of 15,ooo is nothing compared to 2% of 15 MILLION,
BUT
Nuance
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Reply #28 - 06/16/25 at 07:47:15
 
JOG wrote on 06/14/25 at 20:09:23:
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5% of 15,ooo is nothing compared to 2% of 15 MILLION,
BUT
Nuance


The 2% equals nothing. They'll just move 2% to their own "charity" and take the tax deduction. Why do you think the tax laws say it has to be 2% to be a qualified deduction? Republicans, that's why.
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