ThumperPaul wrote on 01/19/24 at 12:42:44:Dave, I may need to rethink the toy hauler now. All good to know if we ever make the leap.
The problem with commercial made toy haulers, is they make the floor really high so that folks with quads and dirt bikes can access the remote locations without dragging and scraping off the underside plumbing. For those of us who ride street bikes and keep our trailers on pavement the high ground clearance is not needed. If you shop around you may be able to find one with a low floor height - I just wanted to make you aware that a floor height more than about 16" starts to become a challenge for loading/unloading easily....when the floor get up to 27" it becomes downright dangerous.
When I take trips without the wife, I am fine with using the campground bathroom and sleeping in my trailer. For about 10 years my trailer was a small 4x8 trailer that was only 4 feet tall. My Pontiac Vibe could pull it well and I likely have 30,000 miles of pulling that trailer! I had a foam mattress that I stood up against the wall while the bike was inside, and once I got to the destination I pulled the bike out and parked it under a pop up canopy, then put the mattress on the floor and made my bed. I had a small battery stick up light, and there were 3 windows for ventilation. It was a great little camper - the only issue was the low height and a Savage fit fine with the mirrors removed, the F800 required I remove the windshield....my larger bike would not fit as the bodywork was too high.
What you might consider doing is convert a cargo trailer into a simple camper so you can have the low floor height. You can keep it simple if you want - or get fancier. There are plenty of videos on YouTube with camper to cargo conversions - just be careful not to make it too heavy (a lot of builders on YouTube have made incredibly heavy trailers.....commercial builders use lightweight materials for a reason).
Traveling in an enclosed trailer works out really well for me. My bike is secure and out of the weather while I travel, sleeping in a trailer is far more comfortable (and drier) than a tent, with a car and small trailer I can get a pretty cheap rate for camping as I don't need an RV site.....at some of the motorcycle campgrounds I just sleep in the car parking area parked between the other cars/trucks/trailers and it is very quiet at night (it is nice to be able to avoid the more costly RV sites).
Recently I upgraded and sold the 4x8 trailer and bought a 5x10 so that I can put my bikes in without removing the windshield - however my Vibe is no longer the designated tow vehicle. The attached photo is from 2012 when I drove to Long Island from Kentucky to pick up my Savage - a 2007 with only 262 miles on it!