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02/24/17 at 13:25:10

Hi folks
For some time now i've wanted to build a super simple, single cylinder chopper, traditional lines and looks but with a big single engine. I've been on the lookout for a suitable donor bike for ages, any air cooled 600 or larger trail bike (suzuki freewind was a hot favorite) or a LS650. And guess which turned up first?
I've not built a chopper before, but always wanted to, and i really need to make uses of some of the kit i have acquired over the last few years.
So this is what i've bought... It didn't want to start (but did breifly fire up) when i went to buy it so it was very cheap. I don't suspect theres anything seriously wrong.

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FunnyBikePhil Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 71	Re: New bike, New member, New fourm, New project Reply #1 - 02/24/17 at 13:35:56 Couple more
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Reply #2 - 02/24/17 at 13:39:34

I'm building a frame from scratch so i can get the geometry and look i want. It will be T45 tube, bronze welded, hardtail of course. Using Savage motor, forks and wheels. I love the belt drive, i'm sure someone can tell me if longer belts are available? The bike will be much longer than stock and i'd like to keep the belt.

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #3 - 02/24/17 at 16:44:58 Funny bike Phil! Longer belts are not available as far as I know but you can convert to chain. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1174239333
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #4 - 02/24/17 at 19:58:57 A belt off a Kawasaki model would be a few inches longer .but the neck angle of these bikes is 35 degrees and making the wheel base longer might make a u turn a four lane event.
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Reply #5 - 02/25/17 at 02:37:07

If you want a longer belt....you can get one. As mentioned there are a few Kawasaki models that used a belt, and they may be a little bit longer. You can also find somebody that will sell you a Bando belt in any length you want....they don't come cheaply.

http://www.bandousa.com/

I believe the stock belt is 133 tooth. Not sure what the Kawasaki KZ750, EN454 or other models are. You can use a Kawasaki KZ750 sprocket on the back and the pulley is smaller - and that will get you some additional slack....probably only a 1/2 inch or so.

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FunnyBikePhil Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 71	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #6 - 02/25/17 at 03:20:04 Kris01 wrote on 02/24/17 at 16:44:58: Funny bike Phil! Haha ...Possibly not as funny as it sounds - i race a dragbike in the UK in a class called Funnybike
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Reply #7 - 02/25/17 at 03:24:49

Thanks for the info on belts, i've come across a place in the Uk that does cutom belts as well but can't remember what it's called.
I'm looking at stretching the back end by 6-10inches, but until it's all in the frame jig and i can get some drawings done i'm not sure.

I'm going to have a lot of savage parts that aren't needed, i'll post in the for sale section at some point.

I tooks some bits off earlier, is the exhaust downpipe double skinned it's entire length? Huge pipe for such a skinny little ex port.

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Reply #8 - 02/25/17 at 09:23:23

Double walled all the way to just shy of the muffler where it necks down. I sliced mine in half the entire length on the bandsaw just to see what the inside looked like.

If you want the engine to breath you need to open that exhaust port where it is dammed up just at the exit of the head. If you want engine performance check the tech section. It is all laid out there. Basically the engine starves for flow on the top end. If you want better plan on, changes to let it breath. Better carb (VM or TM), Cam (3-4 to choose from), Port the exhaust dam, open the header size slightly if desired, and change out that snuffer of a muffler. I did all of that in my build.

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Reply #9 - 02/25/17 at 12:54:10

Again, thanks for the info. I'm not too bothered about performance, but if i have it in bits i will do some tweaks. I have lots of spare nitrous parts if it needs perking up a little Grin

I don't envisage myself riding it much to be honest, the mission brief is that it looks cool and is fun to build. And thats it. However, saying that - in my book unless it's functional it doesn't tick all the boxes.

From looking at other savage projects i can see one of the issues is not being able to use a proper single backbone due to the carb top being in the way and the frame having to split round it. By building a chassis from scratch i'm hoping that by moving things around a bit i can clear it with a straight run of tube.
The front of the engine is also an issue if you want twin downtubes as the exhaust is right in the way. I need to ponder that some more Undecided

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smokin_blue Serious Thumper Offline From Cafes to Streetfighters! I build them all! Posts: 830 St. Paul, MN Gender:	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #10 - 02/25/17 at 13:11:48 As far as the exhaust goes you can take a look at my build to see one way of snaking around the frame. The key is do it in a way that from the side still looks right. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1378864265/30
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FunnyBikePhil Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 71	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #11 - 02/26/17 at 12:56:49 How the flippety flip do you get the front belt pulley off? The nut was bad enough, covered in loctite it was a pig. I suspect the pulley has had the same treatment... it won't budge.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #12 - 02/26/17 at 21:13:31 You might try a little heat,(torch) that should release what ever was used on the splines.(gear puller if you can fit it would also help)
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Saltracer YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 25	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #13 - 02/27/17 at 03:34:24 Must be a UK dragracer thing buying these bikes eh Phil
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FunnyBikePhil Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 71	Re: New bike, New member, New forum, New project Reply #14 - 02/27/17 at 13:15:54 Saltracer wrote on 02/27/17 at 03:34:24: Must be a UK dragracer thing buying these bikes eh Phil Oh....umm.. let me guess.. Steve F?
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