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Message started by zevenenergie on 03/01/26 at 01:04:18

Title: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/01/26 at 01:04:18

America and Israel attack Iran, kill the president and no one says a word about it.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by thumperclone on 03/01/26 at 03:56:24

30'000 state-sponsored executions

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/01/26 at 08:19:34

4A5546555E555E5542575955300 wrote:

America and Israel attack Iran, kill the president and no one says a word about it.

Sure we are, you missed the thread Mean dog.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/01/26 at 14:32:38

Most of his "supporters" are shocked into silence by his stupidity.
He'll be lucky to not be tried and hanged.

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Eegore on 03/01/26 at 21:58:25

America and Israel attack Iran, kill the president and no one says a word about it.

That's not even close to being true. This is an opinion.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/02/26 at 02:54:03

I don't want to say that all the conspiracy theories are true. But the Epstein documents have shown that they cannot be ignored.

One of the biggest conspiracy theories has always been that World War III was already planned. And that it would take place between the Western world and the Muslim world.

Trump has broken his election promise that he would
ensure a modest role for the United States on the world stage.

It demonstrates how powerful Israel is and how powerful wealthy Jewish families are.

I wonder why they have allowed Europe to be overrun with Muslims. European leaders no longer dare to speak out, for fear of Muslim uprisings.

Is it true that the conspiracy theory is that they want to decimate the World population?Because if so, they are on the right track.

Or is it true that the risk that wealthy Jewish families would become known through the Epstein documents became to great and targeting Iran is a distraction?

Regardless, America thinks it was desperately necessary to attack Iran and that it was the best thing to do. They fail to realize that the Muslim community deeply hates America and absolutely rejects any form of interference in their culture. That is, after all, a major part of their culture. It is deeply ingrained in their religion. Hence the belligerent language.
Whatever the outcome, Europe cannot get rid of its Muslims. And so Europe cannot afford to support a war against Muslims. The situation here is already tense; no one dares to speak out openly.

America and Israel hope for a revolution in Iran. If this happens, the Iranians will never choose America as their savior.
China will fuel the war, just as it does in Ukraine, to weaken America.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/02/26 at 03:58:46

From a big picture, long term world history point of view, the Epstein files mean nothing, other than as a club enemies use to hit each other with.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/02/26 at 05:03:01

From a big-picture, long-term world history perspective, the Epstein files mean nothing other than a group of people who thought that life wouldn't bring everything to light.
And everything that hasn't yet been brought to light rot,s and ferment,s beneath the surface, yet it still determines our lives.

The American people would do well to distance themselves from Israel. And the best way to persuade everyone is to release all the Epstein documents.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/02/26 at 06:35:56

The Epstein Files show that the US has basically been blackmailed for decades by Israel for military support. Once the files are released, that will all come out, and it will stop. Yes, a lot of powerful people will have to be jailed. ONLY the US has a problem with that, and by that I mean only the 1%. The rest of the country wants Trumpedo in jail, as well as his entire administration. That is the only way the lawlesssness will stop.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/02/26 at 11:27:42

If you look at Iran, which used to be Western and was taken over by moralists who strongly upheld religion and used violence to do so, and then you look at Trump and how he's bombarding that system of suppression of freedom and expression, he's not doing so badly. In Trump's experience (don't forget the hypocritical behavior he's witnessed and how decisions are made in America), I believe he acts with integrity in his own way.

Don't forget that he was the first to file a complaint in the Epstijn case.

The world is full of skewed power structures. And Trump moves in this world with all these power structures at bay. He sees the hypocrisy and doesn't give a darn about anything.

The only thing he loses sight of is that the world is full of people burdened by power structures, and that he himself is part of such a power structure.

But that's the human condition. No one realizes that he himself is a perpetrator.
I've spoken to many people who are victims, but where are the perpetrators?

Your projections onto Trump are nothing more than a reflection of instincts within you, and you regularly demonstrated them here.

Trump is a very easy target, but the world should be grateful for someone who stands up against Everything that's hypocritical in the world. It would be wonderful, however, if he possessed the ability to look at himself.

I also realize that there are forces in the world that play on him; it couldn't be otherwise, because we all live in an identified state of being, and therefore we are not unique. Our potential is to be unique. Displaying negativity is so utterly mediocre and nothing more than herd behavior. It's easy, and that's why we latch onto it so quickly. It happens automatically. There's not a shred of consciousness or alertness in it.

And yet we possess a treasure within us that is absolutely unique and different in every person, and that's what makes people fascinating.
But it's a potential, and almost no one lives it.

But if you look at where someone is authentic, you see the divine principle in everyone. But you only see it when you step outside your conventional structure. And that is an art worth practicing.

My heart ached when I heard that Khamenei had passed away. It's such a missed opportunity. He, too, once had his ideals, and he, too, was deceived by power structures, including America, he, too, saw the hipocrat. But he, too, didn't realize that he himself was one. Because no one realizes that the ego isn't real. And that it's the false self.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Eegore on 03/02/26 at 12:32:03

But he, too, didn't realize that he himself was one. Because no one realizes that the ego isn't real. And that it's the false self.

Luckily we have bombs for that.

This is an opinion.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/02/26 at 13:24:01

I would say that,s an option.
And one that has been tried 1000.000 times before and as we see it did not work and it won,t work this time.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/02/26 at 14:45:17

This will go down in history as the biggest mistake Trumpedo made. He's going to jail, if he lives. He's already gone into the rash stage of end stage syphilis. It won't be long.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/02/26 at 16:51:34

726D7E6D666D666D7A6F616D080 wrote:

I would say that,s an option.
And one that has been tried 1000.000 times before and as we see it did not work and it won,t work this time.

A little different but only in a matter of degrees: we leveled Japan and Germany and any of us could fly there today for a nice vacation.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/03/26 at 03:10:13

How many people fly to Afghanistan for a nice vacation?

There are two major differences between Iran and Japan-Germany.
The first is culture.
Muslims do not tolerate any interference with their religion, and the West is seen as immoral, and people who do not believe are pigs and moslims don't eat pork.
It is deeply rooted in their culture.

The second major difference is that Germany was occupied until 1955, and Japan until 1952, by the Allies led by the United States.
In Iran, this is impossible because, geographically, it is almost impossible to occupy Iran with ground troops.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/03/26 at 05:07:32

1B0417040F040F0413060804610 wrote:

You’re absolutely correct about the certain nations entrenched with a certain Muslim culture which is why Israel is constantly under attack. That’s why with Gaza we need to bulldoze it to the sea, start over and only let a group without this ridiculous hatred of Jews back in and have them build a peaceful and prosperous culture.

I’m aware that will never happen but we don’t know if Iran can come through this and thrive.

Also, you morons that link this to Epstein are like the 9/11 conspiracy theorists who still exist. Epstein wasn’t an Israeli spy, Trump wasn’t raping little girls, you guys are, as Trump said the other night, crazy.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/03/26 at 06:00:10

"Also, you morons that link this to Epstein are like the 9/11 conspiracy theorists who still exist. Epstein wasn’t an Israeli spy, Trump wasn’t raping little girls, you guys are, as Trump said the other night, crazy."

If you believe any of this, you're just a fool. OK, you COULD be a rich pedo or Getting rich from Trumpedo's policies illegally.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/03/26 at 06:01:30

Web? Do you also think that Hillary did not know the guy?

The invasion of Iran isn't linked to Epstein; he's been "dead" too long for that (I put it in quotation marks, just in case).

It has emerged that someone logged in (after his death) with an old gaming account of him in Israel.

So the invasion isn't linked, but the whole Epstein affair clearly points to a network involving the entire government leadership, prominent businesspeople, bankers, and so on, including ties to the ultra-wealthy Jewish banking families who do everything in their power to stay out of the picture as much as possible, for understandable reasons.
Epstein also had contact with the top of the Israeli government. There's no official proof of ties to the Mossad, but then again, it's a secret service, and approximately 2 million documents haven't been released.

It's abundantly clear that American politics has little to do with citizen-driven decision-making. And that this clique of people has power. It used to be no secret that a certain network supplied both presidential candidates. We now know roughly what those networks look like.

That Israel has enormous influence on American decisions regarding the Middle East should hopefully be clear by now.

Iraq isn't a country you can level. Let's not forget that it's a brick country. And that Russia, China, and all the surrounding Muslim countries can make things quite difficult for Israel, and therefore America. The idea that your strong arm crushes the enemy or sweeps them into the sea doesn't apply here.

Regarding 911, even if there were proof that 911 was an inside job, many people wouldn't accept it and deny it. But then again, no one believed that the 1% were guilty of organized pedophilia, and that was also a conspiracy theory.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/03/26 at 09:17:05

the whole Epstein affair clearly points to a network involving the entire government leadership, prominent businesspeople, bankers, and so on, including ties to the ultra-wealthy Jewish banking families who do everything in their power to stay out of the picture as much as possible, for understandable reasons.

In the manner that you’re saying, that’s absolute nonsense. Powerful people work together when it benefits them but split apart when it doesn’t. You’re seeing a bunch of unrelated activities or activities only related on the peripheral and imagining there’s a giant network of communication and the members are only taking actions as agreed to by the group. It doesn’t work that way.

Look at it this way. You could imagine a crime story, and then go to a deserted junkyard with piles of trash. You could easily walk through those piles looking at all the objects, and you would see random objects that you could pull out and display as evidence that the crime story you imagined was true. 9/11 conspiracy theorist do this.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/03/26 at 10:15:57

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mossad were behind 9/11. How do they get the American people to agree to attacking countries in the Middle East?

I'm not surprised by anything anymore, except things like Tower 7.
It's strange, by the way, that nowhere in the Epstein files is a single word written about 9/11, 1.5 million documents!

And now that America desperately needs a distraction from the Epstein files, we attack as if Iran were about to nuke America.

Come on Web, if you've followed the developments at all, you won't have missed that Black Rock CEO Larry Fink recently publicly stated in an interview that he manipulated and directed wars to protect investors' interests.

This has been a conspiracy theorist's statement for years, for which CT,s were vilified by everyone.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/03/26 at 10:38:46

I give up.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by LANCER on 03/03/26 at 11:05:10

[quote author=193232333B3224570 link=1772355858/0#12 date=1772491517]This will go down in history as the biggest mistake Trumpedo made. He's going to jail, if he lives. He's already gone into the rash stage of end stage syphilis. It won't be long.

Are you on drugs ?

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by MnSpring on 03/03/26 at 11:36:34

0B202021292036450 wrote:

The Epstein Files show that the US has basically been blackmailed for decades by Israel for military support. ..."

Please tell us when, where, and who,
has provided those facts.
And how those facts have been verified ?

(Without LYING !)

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Post by Needles on 03/03/26 at 14:34:24

If you can't read, it's not my problem.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Eegore on 03/03/26 at 15:42:14

Needles doesn't abide by the standards he demands of others.

Of course MnSpring does the exact same thing. Withholds information he uses, but expects references from others.

This is an opinion.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/03/26 at 16:39:02

I abide by my honor, something no "conservative" can even spell.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/03/26 at 16:44:09

How much honor do you think you get from following a pedophile criminal into an illegal war?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by MnSpring on 03/03/26 at 17:08:08

1030323A2730550 wrote:

"... MnSpring ... does the exact same thing. Withholds information he uses, ..."

A-Yep
YOUR 'Opinion',
which, (reguarding this post), is totally wrong.

But hey, it is, YOUR, 'OPINION' !!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Eegore on 03/03/26 at 19:29:55

A-Yep
YOUR 'Opinion',
which, (reguarding this post), is totally wrong.

In YOUR opinion.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/04/26 at 01:00:34

Just a little practical information. Due to the war in Iran, gasoline prices here are already $9.64 per gallon, and it's expected to reach $13.29 per US gallon by the end of the month.

On top of that, the government is going to raise prices by 20% due to the war economy to cover defense costs this year.

I don't know how much you earn, but for the average income here in the Netherlands, that means poverty, because electricity prices are already extremely high due to the war in Ukraine, and they're rising daily.

Primarily due to energy prices, inflation here is currently 5%.
This will only increase because the energy prices will soon be factored into all products.

More over; the Netherlands always replenishes its gas supplies in the spring because that's when prices are lowest. Currently, we have a historically low gas supply.
It will cost billions extra to replenish them.

The question remains how capable Iran is of terrorizing oil installations and shipping traffic in the Middle East in the coming time.

Israel has turned their problem into our problem.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/26 at 04:52:26

4E5142515A515A5146535D51340 wrote:

First, and most important, certain Arab states have turned their hatred of Jews into the civilized world’s problem.

Second, yes, war can raise prices. I don’t know this but how much of your energy problems are self-induced? Did you fall for the renewables can power out country scam and not maintain fossil fuel supply chains? I don’t know.

Third, if Iran’s retaliations are a problem, I’m sure Trump would be glad to let you participate in wiping them out. (But maybe you personally feel Iran’s attacks on Israel bring you a certain amount of joy….. ouch, that one might have hit to close to home.)

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/04/26 at 05:33:20

Our country's energy supply is primarily a political problem. Due to the war in Ukraine, the Netherlands was forced by the US to stop importing oil and gas from Russia.

America also forced us to import liquefied natural gas from the US. We had to reclaim a large area of [ch8203][ch8203]land from the sea for this, and a terminal was built on it to process this fuel. The costs were, of course, entirely borne by the citizens of the Netherlands.

France has requested the Netherlands to send a naval vessel to support the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle in the eastern Mediterranean.

Yesterday, French President Macron announced that he would be sending the French aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean. "We must protect our economic interests, because oil and gas prices and international trade are being seriously disrupted by the war," he said in a televised speech. He was referring specifically to the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, a vital shipping route.

So our involvement in this war is certain.

Turkey was attacked by Iran, and the missile was intercepted by NATO equipment.
It might not be long before NATO intervenes.

You know we disagree on the historical context of the war in Gaza. My opinion on that remains unchanged, and I see the war in Iran as a direct consequence of the war in gaza.

Your theory of the superpower killing the fly and solving all problems is, in my view, invalid. And the current situation in the Middle East demonstrates that.
You can't kill an idea, ideology, or belief. Nor can you undo wrongs with it.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/04/26 at 07:04:19

You MAGATs are idiots. The anti-MAGAT MAJORITY has been warning you morons for over 10 years about Trumpedo. You don't get to biatch about what you were warned of before and ere too stupid to see it.

Sck it up. Y'all ASKED for this sh1t.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/04/26 at 07:22:24

What I,m talking about up here, is Biden,s work.
Although I have to admit, Trump is breaking his election promise here.

Everything depends on an up rise in Iran.

I think a people forced to survive has no room to revolt.
And anyone who thinks that "bringing democracy" is seen abroad as aid hasn't been paying attention.

The great shaking is in full swing.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/04/26 at 07:30:27

Wrong! Trumpedo, all the way.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/04/26 at 07:33:18

"MAGA IS A RELIGIOUS CULT THAT WORSHIPS A FAKE PAST, A MYTHOLOGY OF AMERICA THAT NEVER EXISTED AND WAS ONLY USED AS A WEAPON FOR POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER. IT IS DRAGGING US INTO THE FASCISTIC ABYSS, AND WE NEED to UNDERSTAND WHAT FASCISM REALLY IS BEFORE IT SWALLOWS US." JARED YATES SEXTON

If you don't understand this, YOU are not a real American.

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/04/26 at 07:51:09

476C6C6D656C7A090 wrote:

Wrong! Trumpedo, all the way.

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Ah.. I knew you were a fan :)

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/04/26 at 07:57:20

Trumpedo in 2024: "I can tell you you're not going to have a war with Iran with me as President."

Lying b@stard. Child fugger. Murderer. Traitor. MAGATs' GOD...

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by thumperclone on 03/04/26 at 09:01:03

the "peace president" has started more wars than any other in our history

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/08/26 at 09:27:20

Do MAGATs realize that this war is completely illegal? It's illegal in the International courts, and it's forbidden by the US Constitution. Seperation of church and state is not a suggestion; it is the law. When Trumpedo and Kegbreath stated that the war was based on religion, they were both admitting to felonies. And, I can make that same argument for supporting Israel. The US has fallen into a rabbit hole, dug by MAGATs..

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Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by zevenenergie on 03/09/26 at 08:23:49

I don't think you fully grasp the concept of war. But I also don't think you understand that the Democrats have done nothing to stop this war.
This war was prepared and planned long before the Palestinian attack on Israel. That was just the start.

America can't go back. You can't overthrow a government by taking out one man.

I once said here on this forum that Israel would lose the war against Gaza and its allies. And this seems to be coming true. The war in Iran is an outgrowth of the war in Gaza.

It's now clear that the war will last longer than four weeks. America can only overthrow the regime by deploying ground troops. But for that, it needs the help of England, Germany, and France. If they get involved in the war, and they will. Then Russia and China will do the same.

Deploying nuclear weapons won't work because Russia will shield Iran with its nuclear weapons.

America can't wage real war. America can only flex its muscles. And a high-tech war against the 100,000 dirt-cheap drones Iran has in stock can't be sustained for long.
And China and Russia will replenish their stockpiles. They to will come up with sophisticated low-tech devices in large numbers at a cost that would make anyone drool.

Moreover, the oil-producing countries sustain the American economy through their massive investments in AI. And the American economy runs almost entirely on AI investments.
Iran is attacking the global economy by stopping the oil production.
That was their intention all along.

That great leader who was shot dead was just a facade. The Iranian government and presidential guard are divided into many separate factions and are not controlled by a single person.

America isn't going to win in a month.
And Trump can simply continue the war after the midterms.
And the world and the balance of power will look completely different in a year or two.

Title: Re: Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Post by Needles on 03/09/26 at 09:08:34

Revised figures show that the cost to the US is close to $4 billion a day, when you add the damages to US assets from Iranian drones. The Mach 7 missile they sent THROUGH the "iron dome" Was too fast to shot down, flew right into Tel Aviv.

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/iran-khorramshahr-4-ballistic-missile-strike-tel-aviv-israel-air-defence-operation-true-promise-4/

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