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Message started by thumperclone on 09/22/25 at 12:21:02

Title: don't like it delete it
Post by thumperclone on 09/22/25 at 12:21:02

the DOJ deleted a study that shows:
since 1990 right wing extremists committed 227 violent attacks resulting in 520 deaths
the left-wing extremists committed 42 attacks with 78 deaths

another example of your draft dodger FELON dictator is trying to rewrite history

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/22/25 at 12:46:57

Surely you can find a link to the study and post it.

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/22/25 at 12:58:17

In 2016, a man killed 5 Dallas police officers after a protest organized after police shootings against to black men elsewhere. What category did they list those deaths under?

It’s hard to determine, but the George Floyd protest are said to have been responsible for 25 deaths. Where were these listed?

A retired police officer in St. Louis was shot and killed during one of these protests? How was his death listed?

I’m going to guess they listed the two killed by Kyle Rittenhouse is a right wing murder. Is that an accurate way to categorize that event?

The Columbine and Sandy Hook school shootings were not politically motivated, but the Nashville shootings and the recent shootings in Minneapolis were definitely in revenge to what the killers perceive to be threats against the LBGTQ community? Were those deaths listed as left-wing attacks?

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Serowbot on 09/22/25 at 13:09:36


053730212637201F332039520 wrote:
Surely you can find a link to the study and post it.

I have a Google... You should get one
Took me 3 seconds   :-?
DOJ quietly removes study showing right wing attacks ‘outpace’ those by left
https://thehill.com/homenews/5507682-doj-removes-far-right-extremism-study/

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Eegore on 09/22/25 at 13:59:45



Surely you can find a link to the study and post it.


https://archive.ph/cBfwR

 Easy to see why it was removed.

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by MnSpring on 09/22/25 at 15:26:47


7C607D65786D7A6B6467666D080 wrote:
" dictator "


Incredible
how gullible,
the UL, DFI, FDS,
WOKE Socialists are.

Who wants that, special, Lot in Iowa ?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Needles on 09/22/25 at 15:38:08

47 is definitely a dictator.
Hopefully, the system and the Dems will stop the evil MF.


>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 03:35:25


7656545C4156330 wrote:
Surely you can find a link to the study and post it.


https://archive.ph/cBfwR

 Easy to see why it was removed.


Of course I found it, but I wanted thumper to find it, maybe at least skim through it and post it.

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 04:31:58

The bottom line is, I don’t trust these numbers. This report was authored by academia which is notoriously 90+ percent liberal. Determining motive in many cases, and then assigning them into a category, requires judgment, and everyone’s judgment is tremendously affected by the political ideology , especially in this field.

Maybe they’re true, but I doubt it. Now that it’s in the news, someone will spend the time to dig into the cases and post details. I want to see if the six killed in the Nashville school shootings were assigned to the left side of the political spectrum. If so, that would go along way with establishing credibility.


Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 04:40:14

From Grok: No, the six people killed in the March 2023 Nashville Covenant School shooting (three children—Evelyn Dieckhaus, William Kinney, and Hallie Scruggs—and three adults—Katherine Koonce, Michael Hill, and Cynthia Peak) are not assigned to any category in the NIJ report “What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism.” The report, published in the NIJ Journal (No. 285, 2024), synthesizes decades of federally funded research on domestic terrorism trends from 1990 onward, focusing primarily on ideologically motivated violence by far-right, far-left, and radical Islamist extremists. It does not mention the Nashville shooting, Audrey Hale (the shooter), Covenant School, or any non-ideological mass shootings like this one. Official investigations by the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department concluded the attack was driven by Hale’s personal mental health struggles, obsession with mass killers, and desire for notoriety, rather than any political, religious, or ideological motive.


Here’s my issue. While authorities kept much of her writing in his manifesto. private, some did leak out. Here it is and you tell me if you replace white with blacks where these deaths would have been classified?
“Wanna kill all you little crackers […] Bunch of little faggo!s w/ your white privlages [sic] fuxk you faggo,$."

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by thumperclone on 09/23/25 at 05:06:12



Of course I found it, but I wanted thumper to find it, maybe at least skim through it and post it.
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I don't post links that I get my information from it forces you to do your own research so MAYBE you'll get weaned off of FOX news

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Needles on 09/23/25 at 06:03:35

They don't believe the links you give them anyway...


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Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 06:53:06


362A372F322730212E2D2C27420 wrote:
Of course I found it, but I wanted thumper to find it, maybe at least skim through it and post it.
 

I don't post links that I get my information from it forces you to do your own research so MAYBE you'll get weaned off of FOX news
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So you didn’t read it. You saw it on a news article and made your post. Nor did you consider my questions about how certain murders were classified.

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Eegore on 09/23/25 at 07:04:08

The bottom line is, I don’t trust these numbers. This report was authored by academia which is notoriously 90+ percent liberal. Determining motive in many cases, and then assigning them into a category, requires judgment, and everyone’s judgment is tremendously affected by the political ideology , especially in this field.

 While I agree this also means all Academia, even those that recognize left-leaning mass destructive events are not to be trusted.  Much like the FBI is not to be trusted, until an FBI report reflects what you believe.  Then all the sudden the FBI can be trusted.  

 

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 07:30:56

I get your point but you cannot deny a report that relies on someone’s interpretation is subject to bias. And if it’s an academic report, especially having to deal with the social science world, that’s a strong hold of those with a liberal ideology. Again, were the school shootings in Nashville listed under left-wing domestic terrorism in this particular report?

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by thumperclone on 09/23/25 at 08:17:08


1A282F3E39283F002C3F264D0 wrote:
I get your point but you cannot deny a report that relies on someone’s interpretation is subject to bias. And if it’s an academic report, especially having to deal with the social science world, that’s a strong hold of those with a liberal ideology. Again, were the school shootings in Nashville listed under left-wing domestic terrorism in this particular report?



you're dodging the gist of this post
the right is vicious

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 08:47:18

I’m not dodging anything. I suspect like me they are wondering if the data was tabulated with a strong leftist bias.

Do you think the school shooting in Nashville should’ve been tabulated to the left wing side of the equation or not?

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Eegore on 09/23/25 at 10:13:36

I get your point but you cannot deny a report that relies on someone’s interpretation is subject to bias.

 I agree.  I beleive the study is accurate, but not all encompassing.  So it's good for identifying risk factors, but not creating averages.

 Of course if we have to blame the Other political party it's best to not read it so there's no Observation contrary to what we want to be true.  Now its Their fault - They are the violent ones.

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by WebsterMark on 09/23/25 at 12:20:45


627E637B667364757A797873160 wrote:
[quote author=1A282F3E39283F002C3F264D0 link=1758568862/0#14 date=1758637856]I get your point but you cannot deny a report that relies on someone’s interpretation is subject to bias. And if it’s an academic report, especially having to deal with the social science world, that’s a strong hold of those with a liberal ideology. Again, were the school shootings in Nashville listed under left-wing domestic terrorism in this particular report?



you're dodging the gist of this post
the right is vicious
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Again: Again, were the school shootings in Nashville listed under left-wing domestic terrorism in this particular report?

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Needles on 09/23/25 at 16:19:33

"Again: Again, were the school shootings in Nashville listed under left-wing domestic terrorism in this particular report?"

False equivalency.  One incident from the "left"  doesn't equal the dozens of shootings and other killings the MAGATs have meted out.

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Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Eegore on 09/23/25 at 16:55:45


False equivalency.  One incident from the "left"  doesn't equal the dozens of shootings and other killings the MAGATs have meted out.


 It depends on how you interpret the data.  I would say it is an equivalency because it is a shooting assault on random victims.  It is not a quantitative equivalency as there is not a 1 to 1 ratio of political identity in regard to this specific crime type.

 

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by thumperclone on 09/24/25 at 04:00:31

January 6th

Title: Re: don't like it delete it
Post by Needles on 09/24/25 at 06:08:59


18383A322F385D0 wrote:
False equivalency.  One incident from the "left"  doesn't equal the dozens of shootings and other killings the MAGATs have meted out.


 It depends on how you interpret the data.  I would say it is an equivalency because it is a shooting assault on random victims.  It is not a quantitative equivalency as there is not a 1 to 1 ratio of political identity in regard to this specific crime type.

 



Of course not, and THAT'S what MAGATs are ignoring. You have literally DOZENS of incidents committed by MAGATs, compared to a tiny few incidents committed by "leftists". Y'all are trying to defend "100s = 1". Math is not political. MAGATs foment violence, simple as that. It is a fact, not conjecture.


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