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Message started by iRocco on 05/29/14 at 14:37:00

Title: I am interested in Opinions
Post by iRocco on 05/29/14 at 14:37:00

In the newbie intro message, Serowbot says, "Get a Raptor pet, and a Versy adjuster... and you'll own the best bike available in the last 30 years.."

I'd love to hear why people here think of the LS650 as the best bike?

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by oldNslow on 05/29/14 at 14:55:12

Well, I'll start things off with a contrary opinion. I like my S40 just fine, but, "best bike available in the last 30 years". Not even close.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by shorty on 05/29/14 at 14:57:32

old school, easy to work on, simple basic construction, lightweight, cheap, good lookin'... not the best though

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by verslagen1 on 05/29/14 at 15:17:01


3426293428292220470 wrote:
old school, easy to work on, simple basic construction, lightweight, cheap, good lookin'... not the best though

Challenge: name one in the same price range.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by pgambr on 05/29/14 at 15:35:12

What competition is out there?  Vstar 650, 750 shadow (not really applicable), vlx 600 (not made any more).  Am I missing any models?

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by pgambr on 05/29/14 at 15:56:00

I can honestly say this about my s40.  I've had it for 8 years, it has never broke down and left me on the side of the road and always started every single time (except a dead battery and e10 in the carb).  If I can learn how to fix it, anyone can.  I never had any experience or tools.  8 years later I still have a great bike and I know how to make it run even better.   :)  

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by iRocco on 05/29/14 at 15:56:28

I bought mine after test riding an old goldwing. Thought I should start smaller. Saw this at local dealer and liked the looks. Knew nothing about it. So far it's been a gas. I am new to riding. Found out yesterday that I need more experience before trying the Chicago expressways again. I do like the way it rides and find it has enough power. I hope to get several years service.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by Dane Allen on 05/29/14 at 16:12:59

I'm a daily commuter, rain or shine (mostly shine :-), and have put over 16,000 miles on my S-40 since I got it new 14 months ago. Despite a self-inflicted battery failure I have no complaints. I am very pleased with the cost of ownerhip including gas, maintenance and such. I doubt I will ever trade it in, my goal is to hit 100,000 miles with it still going strong.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/30/14 at 00:20:51

While Suzuki's LS650 may not be the "best" motorcycle available, most on these Forums currently own one or have owned one (I've personally owned 2 over the years) during their history as a Rider ... and so are endeared with Suzuki's 650cc Thumper.

I'll always love 'em ... they have many positive virtues ... and are unique ... none other like 'em offered by the other of the Big-4 Japanese manufacturers!

Best? Best is a relative term ... if some owners deem them the "best" for them, then it is ...

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by ToesNose on 05/30/14 at 04:38:44

An inexpensive, easy to maintain, cheap to make dependable (in 95% of the cases sorry WD) big single that isn't enduro/dual sport. This bike has tons of torque and is fun to ride, as long as you don't want to ride on the interstates all day long it's AWSOME! There may not be a lot of aftermarket bolt on parts available for the LS650, but who needs them if you have some tools and some imagination you can do what ever you want to just about any bike  8-)

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by WD on 05/30/14 at 08:13:20

Best? Not even close, the best bike of the last 30 years was the VN800A, closely followed by the VN800 Drifter and the VN1500 series. More power, better build quality. The C50 and C90 are decent too.

AS SHIPPED, the Savage/S40 is a disaster waiting to happen. Timing chain tensioner, lean jetting, very cheaply made lightweight electrical parts that are not water resistant, guaranteed to fail petcock, guaranteed to fail clutch and kickstand safety switches, dry cables, garbage brake shoes/pads... With some minimal cash outlay and a few replacement parts worked out by the forum itself, they become fun backroads bikes and can be turned into serious motorcycles. Just depends on your budget.

I do own 2 of them. I like them, but I don't trust them as far as my permanent 35# lifting limit would allow me to throw them. If I need to go more than 300 miles in a day, I'm taking something else.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by iRocco on 05/30/14 at 08:24:06


4F7A6D6D667B7E4C7E697E787A1F0 wrote:
Best? Best is a relative term ... if some owners deem them the "best" for them, then it is ...


Perry, I agree, and posted this question to see what people had to say about the bike. It's interesting to hear what draws us together.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by Serowbot on 05/30/14 at 09:04:04

I may have exaggerated... just a bit... :-/...

My bike,... is the best bike made in 30 years... ;D...

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/rrshot026.jpg

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by verslagen1 on 05/30/14 at 09:44:15


1106000C0313610 wrote:
What competition is out there?  Vstar 650, 750 shadow (not really applicable), vlx 600 (not made any more).  Am I missing any models?

A 2000 LS650 has a KBB value of $1,535
2000 Yamaha XVS650 V Star 650 Custom $2,165, that's 40% over.
2000 Honda VT600C Shadow VLX $2,050, that's 34% over.
2000 Kawasaki VN800-A6 Vulcan 800 $2,255, 47% over.

At least with the Kow you're getting more than just an extra cylinder.

For what it does... best bang for the buck.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by iRocco on 05/30/14 at 11:03:04

Serowbot, I like it! Tell me where you got those mirrors? I can't see past my shoulder with the one I have.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by Serowbot on 05/30/14 at 11:19:26

Ebay... tons of 'em...
They usually have an adapter to fit 1" bars.. and it don't work too good...
Just jam some spacers or wood shims or anything in there until you get a snug fit...
I've had them on for years, and work pretty good...
;)...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=Bar+end+mirrors&_sacat=0&_from=R40
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/0/7/0/9/webimg/687374820_o.jpg

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by strang on 05/30/14 at 11:33:15

It's light so when it breaks you can push it somewhere.  :)

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by S-P on 05/30/14 at 12:17:18

Love mine. I looked at bikes for over a year before I bought my first Savage. I shopped 600-800 twins, read reviews, looked at prices, mods, parts, etc. etc. I'm old school. My favorite vehicles were my VW's and my '59 Chevy Apache. Carb on top of an engine. This is a simple machine, been built for decades virtually unchanged (for good or bad with the factory issues, but all easily fixable for a few bucks and a Saturday). After 50.00 in exhaust and carb parts it runs like a twin or better around town. Another 35.00 in rattle cans and an ammo box and I have a bike that people gather around in the grocery store parking lot. What more could you ask?

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by shorty on 05/30/14 at 14:38:39


677463627D7076747F20110 wrote:
[quote author=3426293428292220470 link=1401399420/0#2 date=1401400652]old school, easy to work on, simple basic construction, lightweight, cheap, good lookin'... not the best though

Challenge: name one in the same price range.[/quote]
I bought the s40 new, obviously I like it, but best bike in 30yrs?  ;)

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by WebsterMark on 05/31/14 at 04:44:55

I got rid of mine for a BMW RT for longer trips and while that's a great bike, I get a little sad when I see a S40 on the road. It was fun to ride and I miss that. I'll have one again someday. By the way, they always get labeled as a great beginners bike, but I'm not sure why. That aren't the easiest bike to ride for someone just starting out.

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by shorty on 05/31/14 at 08:16:06

I think they call it a beginner's bike because it's light and has a low seat.

I researched for 2 weeks before choosing a new bike, since I'm short needed a low seat, wanted belt drive, wanted 450-650cc, no rocket ninja style, jap-made ..
ended up choosing the s40

salesman asked why I wanted a girl's bike  :-?  I made an offer anyway  but ended up going to Ocala, FL where they didn't piss me off  ;)

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by S-P on 05/31/14 at 08:22:58


495B544955545F5D3A0 wrote:
salesman asked why I wanted a girl's bike  :-?  I made an offer anyway  but ended up going to Ocala, FL where they didn't piss me off  ;)


I'd call the owner of that bike shop and tell him he lost a sale because of that a**hole.  My brother went to a car dealer once with cash in his pocket to buy a Z-240 and because he looked like a Mexican laborer right after he got off work the salesman treated him like crap. My brother went to the manager, flashed his cash and said you just lost a sale because of your salesman and walked out. The salesman was fired on the spot and the manager begged him to buy the car, but he went elsewhere.

And on the list of "Things I coulda said"... Why do I want a girl's bike? Because I don't have to RIDE my p*nis...  ;D

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by HAPPYDAN on 06/01/14 at 11:52:23

+1 on what's been said, but the bikes I wanted are no longer in production. After some research and searching, I ran across the Savage/S40/LS650. I'm 5'10", 165 lbs, and it fits me perfectly. While riding I feel like I'm "wearing" the bike. It flows with me, and responds to even subtle control efforts. Would I change anything? You bet. #1- The fuel tank is NO PLACE to put the speedometer or idiot lights! That just plain sucks. #2- It really needs a trip odometer. #3- Either fix that useless tool box or just remove it. #4- How about EFI? Seems like everyone is dissatisfied with that carb, always fiddling, hoping for better (me, too). #5- The stock shocks ride like a hardtail. Hope I didn't offend anyone with my frank opinion, but maybe some Zuki engineer will see this and get a clue!

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by verslagen1 on 06/01/14 at 12:31:39

but all that stuff can be fixed.

find a tank and speedo/dash offa vn750
shocks offa intruder
and a shotgun for the tool box

then change your name to reallyhappydan.   8-)

Title: Re: I am interested in Opinions
Post by Badass94Cad on 06/02/14 at 15:16:45


2E1528242428470 wrote:
Serowbot, I like it! Tell me where you got those mirrors? I can't see past my shoulder with the one I have.

I got the same style in chrome cheap on eBay.

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