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Title: Battery Diagnostic Post by oceantransistor on 12/02/13 at 15:19:17 Hello, So it's the version of winter in LA and I still ride the motorcycle. Unfortunately it has trouble starting in the cold mornings if I don't ride it around for a couple of days but it will start fine in the afternoons. I only ride it 3 to 4 times a week to go to work which is a 12 mile roundtrip in gridlock traffic. We split lanes as much as we can out here. Any suggestions? Should I get it tested first and then get a tender charger setup for it anyways? I have to park it pretty far from any outlets. Should I set it up with a jump starter instead? Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by Serowbot on 12/02/13 at 16:58:35 What's yer' oil?... 20-W50?... a 10W-40 might work better... Take a little ride on off days... A dark bike cover might hold in some warmth... ... or,.. a new battery if it's old... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by verslagen1 on 12/02/13 at 17:17:05 12 mile round trip may not be enough to maintain the battery. You might need a battery charger |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/03/13 at 09:19:09 5A495E5F404D4B49421D2C0 wrote:
Riding 6 miles & shutting it off? Naaah,, snot gonna keep the battery hot. Spend the time to put a pigtail on the battery & get a float charger to keep it up. The battery clamp style connection is lousy. I go to Radio Shack & get connectors, solder up the pins & lop off the clips that keep them together, so its just "Slip together, pull apart" instead of having to squeeze the release so I can unhook the charger, Getting in & wiring in a sanitary spot is fiddly,, creating a tidy hookup isnt a 5 minute job, but being able to just slip a connector together instead of trying to get battery clamps hooked up makes the hassle worth it, |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by Paladin. on 12/03/13 at 10:26:13 717D7B7F706A6C7F706D776D6A716C1E0 wrote:
If the battery is an old tech flooded battery and is over 2 years old you might consider getting an AGM battery off the Internet. |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by mpescatori on 12/04/13 at 05:40:31 Hi Paladin, nice hearing from you :) I have noticed the standard Savage battery is the same as my BMW battery, YTX-14BS (I wonder what the BS stards for... ::)... ;D) Well, it shouldn't come as a surprise given both have to crank 650ccs at a time... The current battery on the Savage is an old flloded lead battery, 2 or 3 years old, doing just fine. The current battery on the Beemer is a modern AGM battery fitted last january, and at 11 monthis old it needs a nanny charger... :P same code, too... ...but as I live on the 6th floor there is no way I can drop an extension cord and feed the trickle charger ! ;D So it's just "wizz wizz iwzz frrrt frrt broom!" every morning. |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by DavidOfMA on 12/04/13 at 06:49:28 342730312E2325272C73420 wrote:
I can verify that the Savage/S40 charging system is pretty weak. I was also riding about 12 miles round trip last winter, with an occasional hour-long ride when it was above 30F and the roads were clear, and although I never had any trouble starting the bike, when it got below 10F for a few days, the battery plates warped and killed the battery, which was only about 9 months old. Now have an AGM battery and am going to trickle charge it every month or so throughout the winter. If you can't get it close to an electrical outlet, and you're not taking long rides on the weekends, maybe you can periodically "freshen" the battery by hooking it to your car battery for an hour or so, with the car turned off, every couple of weeks? Probably need to check the amperage between car battery and motorcycle battery to get an idea of how quickly it will charge that way, so you don't overcharge. |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by verslagen1 on 12/04/13 at 07:25:40 Challenge: Cars drop dead over a 5mile commute. Mercedes for one. So name the bike that'll take a 10mile commute and live? |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/04/13 at 08:20:02 7D4C414C4944432D0 wrote:
If the battery is an old tech flooded battery and is over 2 years old you might consider getting an AGM battery off the Internet.[/quote] never had a problem *after* I replaced my battery, twice Thats hilarious, man,, |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by oldNslow on 12/04/13 at 08:30:42 594A5D5C434E484A411E2F0 wrote:
Can't answer about the bike - no idea. But my commute for almost 30 years was LESS than 5 miles, and sometimes my cars never went anyplace but back and forth to work for weeks at a time. My wife always had the "good" so that's the one we used most of the time for other things. In all that time I never had a battery problem. I'm glad I could never afford a Mecedes :D |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by gizzo on 12/04/13 at 17:08:01 4A594E4F505D5B59520D3C0 wrote:
Honda CT90 Suzuki DR250 |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by DavidOfMA on 12/04/13 at 19:11:41 2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:
I think this kind of issue with cars is very rare. My Nissan Sentra never had a problem in Boston weather with a 6-mile commute each way, even when the temp was in the single digits. Car charging systems seem far more robust than the one in the Savage. |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by Face on 12/04/13 at 19:36:04 33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
Anything with kick start and points ignition. As far as modern bikes......uh.......Schwinn ? |
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Title: Re: Battery Diagnostic Post by youzguyz on 12/05/13 at 05:28:02 3C2F3839262B2D2F247B4A0 wrote:
Savage. I have 2 bikes. One is the "commuter" (Mad Hamish). I have a 5 mile run to work, no highway. I put a battery in when I bought the bike and it had about 3,000 miles on it. Now it has 34,000 miles. The same battery is in there. It has never been on a charger/tender. Bike starts fine every time. The battery I put in it? Big Crank. Thumper has a Big Crank battery too, and I think it is getting time to replace it.. I have only put a new battery in once, and now I have 110,000 miles on the bike. May have to see if I wrote down when I replaced it my maintenance records. I know it was way back when. |
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