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Yesterday at 04:33:28
 
Google tells me that’s French for it already happened here.

Occupy Wall Street, Michael Brown and Ferguson, George Floyd, and a host of other regional “peaceful protest”, the US has endured them all.

The difference with France is a larger % of recent immigrants are participating. That raises an interesting question.

The US riots did not have that element of immigrants participating and is that a factor in them eventually fading out? In other words, is it possible that the participation of a critical mass of immigrants maintains momentum in a violent and destructive movement until a chain of events occurs where the movement is basically unstoppable using conventional law enforcement techniques and force?
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Reply #1 - Yesterday at 04:59:22
 
I could be wrong, but I think the answer to that question is no. However, it has set the strange for the next reaction. A different combination of elements and pressure could easily reach critical mass.
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Reply #2 - Yesterday at 06:37:37
 

The US riots did not have that element of immigrants participating and is that a factor in them eventually fading out? In other words, is it possible that the participation of a critical mass of immigrants maintains momentum in a violent and destructive movement until a chain of events occurs where the movement is basically unstoppable using conventional law enforcement techniques and force?

 
 I don't think so.  This is an opinion.

 First thing is the immigration component is amplified in US "news" in the aspect of percentage contributing to violence contributions.  Also I'm not sure that violence from a French citizen is much different than violence from an immigrant.  

 Until we know what critical mass, and conventional law enforcement techniques and force mean to you, then there really is no way to answer.
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Reply #3 - Yesterday at 07:36:04
 
           [quote. "... ]
       I'm not sure that violence
   from a French citizen
is much different than violence from an immigrant..." [/quote]


I believe it is.
And a great part of MY opinion,
comes from, many news sources.
Which report, (in various ways)
"...No Muslims Stores,
were looted/damaged/stole from,
By Muslims ..."


And the OBSERVED REALITY of the absolute destruction,
in Mpls. Which I PERSONALTY Saw.


(At that time I, was 75 min away,
and 4 days later I drove through that area)



Destruction from a,  'ANGRY MOB',  
Which destroys everything they can in their fever.

Is very different that a ''ANGRY MOB',
Which another faction has joined,
and do NOT do any damage,
to their own kind.
Because it was 'identified',
as a place no damage should occur.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #4 - Yesterday at 08:05:42
 
how many Jan 6th insurgents are immigrants??
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Reply #5 - Yesterday at 08:32:56
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 06:37:37:
The US riots did not have that element of immigrants participating and is that a factor in them eventually fading out? In other words, is it possible that the participation of a critical mass of immigrants maintains momentum in a violent and destructive movement until a chain of events occurs where the movement is basically unstoppable using conventional law enforcement techniques and force?

 
 I don't think so.  This is an opinion.

 First thing is the immigration component is amplified in US "news" in the aspect of percentage contributing to violence contributions.  How do you know that? Also I'm not sure that violence from a French citizen is much different than violence from an immigrant.   Breaking into a store and looting doesn’t matter to the owner if the person is a indigenous Frenchman or first generation immigrant, legal, or not legal, that’s true. How often one or the other does it, that does matter.

 Until we know what critical mass, and conventional law enforcement techniques and force mean to you, then there really is no way to answer.

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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 08:35:54
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:05:42:
how many Jan 6th insurgents are immigrants??


How many immigrants participated in the Jan 6 protest? I don’t know and probably pretty hard to say. I’m sure there were a percentage of legal first second third generation immigrants. How many illegal immigrants? I feel pretty good that number was probably zero but anything is possible.
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Reply #7 - Yesterday at 09:02:00
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:05:42:
how many Jan 6th insurgents are immigrants??


Don't know.
They were not recorded.

HOWEVER

From:   FactCheck.org®
"...Ashli Babbitt, 35, of San Diego and an Air Force veteran, died on the day of the riot after being shot in the shoulder by a Capitol Police officer ..."

Where the person ,
who shot her,
was PROTECTED.

And MANY said it was in cold blood,
Simply because when he KILLED her,
She was not any kind of threat.





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Reply #8 - Yesterday at 09:58:19
 
From an AI search: Sociological analyses, neighborhood demographics, and expert evaluations during the late 2026 school and student riots suggest that first- and second-generation immigrant populations are highly represented among those arrested compared to "indigenous" or multi-generational French citizens, though official quantitative confirmation remains legally impossible.

Because French law strictly forbids tracking the race, ethnicity, or lineage of detainees, this likelihood is inferred through the geographical and socioeconomic tracking of the unrest:
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Reply #9 - Yesterday at 11:30:03
 
First thing is the immigration component is amplified in US "news" in the aspect of percentage contributing to violence contributions.  

How do you know that?

 An analysis of content within mainstream "news" cycles recorded in 22 countries compared against US "news" cycles.  This specific analysis does not include social media by independents but does include social media posts made by official "news" agencies.  This is an opinion.

 US "news" cycles amplify the verbiage of: "immigration" "immigrant" "illegal immigrant" "illegal immigration" "asylum" "asylum fraud" "refugee" "displaced" at about 29.4%  An example is when a French "news" outlet indicates "immigrants" were involved in the unrest, the same "news" story is translated in US language, adding "illegal" to "immigrant".  Not all the time, just about 29.4% of the time.

 This post is an opinion.
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And MANY said it was in cold blood,
Simply because when he KILLED her,
She was not any kind of threat.



 In your OPINION.
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Reply #11 - Yesterday at 12:48:07
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:05:42:
how many Jan 6th insurgents are immigrants??



what's next blaming this administrations' corruption on immigrants?
we are after all a nation of immigrants..
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Reply #12 - Yesterday at 12:50:25
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 11:33:38:
  ...   In your OPINION.


LOLOLOL. AGAIN..

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Reply #13 - Yesterday at 13:11:48
 
I didn’t say illegal immigrant, I said immigrant. I further went on to clarify first and second generation. Everyone should be aware the demographics of France has drastically changed in the last generation or two.

My theory, which I believed to be proven by ongoing events, is the first and second generation immigrants into France have not experienced the prosperity that they perhaps imagined they would or should. It’s likely this generates a high level of frustration which is easily manifested in violence and I believe it’s accurate to say this is a manifestation of the immigrants indigenous culture.

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Reply #14 - Yesterday at 13:15:08
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 12:48:07:
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:05:42:
how many Jan 6th insurgents are immigrants??



what's next blaming this administrations' corruption on immigrants?
we are after all a nation of immigrants..


We were previously a nation of assimilated immigrants. I don’t think we can say today as we did in the past. They’re in lies the difference. And I believe a consequence of that is being felt in France today.
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