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Really struggling with a next bike ancestors help!
08/17/26 at 13:37:42
 
So,

My ls650 is my first bike, I used it as a daily driver for the last 6 years, I have no idea how many miles as I removed the odometer in 2022. I threw a sportster tank on it, rewired it, mikuni carb, converted it from a belt to a chain for shorter gearing and more down low torque, run no fenders, of course the tensioner mod, etc etc. I've made the bike truly my own, even ran my wiring through my handlebars. No turn signals, no horn, no decompression. Just a headlight, a Killswitch, an ignition, and brake lights.

I rode this bike till the doors fell off and I mean it-- extremely aggressive urban riding All season so long as there is no frozen percipient on the ground. Weaving in traffic, every stop is a drag race, I've burned through multiple clutches and have replaced the clutch at least 4 times. I'm telling you this bike is panting when I hang up the saddle every day.

So anyway, my compression started to go, and I'm losing oil, and a lot of it.  also there's a ton of small problems and I just don't know how much longer I can keep this bike alive -- also she struggles in the cold from start, takes forever to warm up these days when the temps drop. I think it might be time to say goodbye, as heartbreaking as it is to say. I need reliability, I report to an office three days a week now at 7 am and need to be able to get up and go, I also have a lot less time for wrenching. I want reliability but I'm scared about sacrificing my soul -- a bike I can't customize makes me think, what was the point of everything I learned and did?? What was it all for? I kade my dreams a reality with my savage.... New bikes looks sterile, they look like they have no heart...

So, long story short, I need a new bike. I've been doing a ton of research, and I narrowed it down to two very different options: triumph scrambler 400x, or a 2003 sportster 883 hugger.

So why these two? Well, the sporty is all the customization I could ever want, it's a blank canvas, the 2003 was before the rubber mounts and is still carbureted, which interests me. I've actually never ridden an 883, and my hesitation with that bike is how heavy it is int he city, I feel like it won't be as nimble... Is this true? Is the 883 as flickable as the savage? Can I dodge and weave on it?

The alternative is the scrambler, the specs on it, despite being a 400, are claimed to be superior to the savage in terms of performance. It's pretty. It's relatively cheap. But ride by wire?? Efi??? Ride modes??? Abs??? I feel like it might be night to have a dialy I don't need to really worry about..... But again I don't want to sell my soul for comfort.

What to do? Any other suggestions?
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Re: Really struggling with a next bike ancestors h
Reply #1 - 08/17/26 at 16:58:47
 
A Sporty, either the 883 or 1200, weigh in at 550-600 lbs.  They are heavy to move around the garage/shop, and are NOT flickable on the road like an LS650.
I loved the Sporty’s on the highways, plenty of power for highway cruising.
But for the country roads, curvy mountain roads, and such (like the DRAGON in NC/TN), the LS650 is a very capable mountain roads carver.
It’s fun, and is quite capable.
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Reply #2 - 08/25/26 at 10:41:21
 
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I've had a 2004 1200 Sportster (first year rubber mounted engine) , and a 2007 883 Sportster ( first year injected).

Like Lancer said ... "They are Heavy" .   I know the pre-2004's were a little lighter ... but ... those 2003 and earlier Sportster cruised at under 65mph for a very good reason !   Salvation came in 2004 with the rubber mounted engine !

Those Triumph 400 bikes come with "new-bike" reliable + performance (if liquid cooled don't bother you) !   Forty HP and four hundred pounds is going to  be a fun combination !   Wink

I'm waiting on the GB500 Honda or the RE 440 Scram  "Singles"  to reach our shores .   Which one will get here first ?   Huh   Used RE-INT 650's twins(430 pounds)  are cheep and reliable (I got a new one and like it ... 2023 model)
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Re: Really struggling with a next bike ancestors h
Reply #3 - 08/25/26 at 19:35:51
 
Thanks for the responses guys,

The REs look good, have been seeing more and more of them on the road in the city of brotherly love, I'm definitely not opposed to getting on one.

this Saturday I'm going to test ride the triumph 400 and the triumph 900 scrambler, will report back. The scram 900 is about 495 lbs wet, comparable to a 2003 hugger 883, but has some really impressive specs. One thing I'm concerned about is part cost -- triumph parts for the newer models do not at all seem cheap (gas tanks for the scram 900 are like 2.5 k OEM....) I'm curious what part costs are for the REs.

The Honda gb 500 looks interesting, apparently triumph has another new model soon, and I've still been waiting on any news about the Harley sprint, what ever happened with that thing?
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Reply #4 - 09/02/26 at 20:44:45
 
Dude: you've answered your own question! based on what you've done to your own S40, buy another one: transfer the hotrod parts to the new one.
It's September, they will be a dime-a-dozen in a few weeks, most with low miles.
Save some money, it don't grow on trees !
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ps:  OR: https://www.craigslist.org/view/d/york-1987-suzuki-savage/a38CfsGjCWVNetP27A7X1A
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Reply #5 - 09/03/26 at 09:15:11
 
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Royal Enfield parts are low priced in comparison to anything else , and their factories are newer than most other company are.   My 2022 RE-Meteor 350 single cylinder has just under 30,000 miles on it today , runs like it's barely broke-in , and get 80 to 85 mpg all the time.   My RE-INT 650 is still a baby with 4,000 miles on it and 2 years of warrantee and road-side-assistance left on it.  The INT-650 gets 65-70 mpg regularly. Smiley   There just isn't anything not nice to say about either of them !

I loved my two LS650's and the RE-350 under bored - long stroke family of bikes are little more than a S-40 with less power so it's easy to love it also ... sits (Meteor) and even geared the same as the LS 650 Suzuki !   A 72mm to 78mm big bore kit and also a 20% power Cam is available if someone needed more get-up and go.   I've done the DNA air intake system , the Performance Cam and the free flowing exaust already and I'm good with the +- 25/26 HP, 400 pound bike because the Torque feels like the LS650 does (BS-72x86mm) but fuel injected with fantastic fuel millage .   Smiley

There are so many bikes to choose from ... I like the Air Cooled bikes but there isn't many of them left to pick from ?  
I've got a 50ish hp and 400 pounds air/oil cooled (INT-650) to choose from for daily ridding but most of the time I take the 25ish hp 400 pound long stroke bike ... it's just  more additive to me  Wink






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Re: Really struggling with a next bike ancestors h
Reply #6 - Today at 06:07:00
 
Hey Philly,

Where’s the update!?  You sure “narrowed it down” to opposite ends of the spectrum!  Between the two and knowing how you buzz around Philly daily, the old Harley doesn’t seem right for you. If it was a weekend cruiser and you wanted to do some wrenching, maybe.

At the opposite end, I think you might get bored with the Triumph 400.  While it might be a neutral performance step compared to the Savage, I’m guessing you might enjoy something with a little better highway capability.

The Royal Enfield INT-650 that MM mentioned is interesting if that’s your style.  It has the 270° crank that tries to imitate a v-twin sound and it’s built for smooth torque.

I’m pretty happy with my Kawasaki Vulcan S 650.  It’s a bit more rev-happy with its Ninja derived parallel twin.  When initially released for 2015, they touted a “detuned” Ninja 650 that used a milder mid range “torque cam”.  Kawasaki liked their engineering work so much that they changed the cam profile for the Ninja 650 to be more like the Vulcan S for the 2017 Ninja model year.  The Vulcan S is right at 500lbs +\-ABS.  It doesn’t feel 500lbs and very flickable and city friendly.  You can find good used 2015-2018 models in the $3-4k range.
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