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Reply #60 - 08/29/26 at 16:20:17
 
And another.

https://www.christianactivities.com/islams-takeover-of-nations-a-historical-p...

"... Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.
Parallels to Modern Muslim Immigration in the West

The historical pattern of Islamization through conquest and demographic shifts has implications for Western nations experiencing high levels of Muslim immigration today. While contemporary migration is not military conquest, the long-term effects of cultural transformation and demographic change could mirror historical trends.

Key Concerns:

1. Demographic Shifts and Declining Christian Populations

As seen in history, Muslim-majority nations did not begin as such; they became Muslim through gradual changes.

Western nations with declining birthrates and growing Muslim populations may face a similar transformation over time.

2. Cultural and Religious Influence

In many Western countries, Muslim communities have pushed for Sharia law accommodations, Islamic education in public schools, and changes to free speech laws to criminalize “Islamophobia.”

In the UK, parts of cities like Birmingham and London have significant Muslim majorities, influencing local governance and policies.

3. Suppression of Christianity in Islamic-Dominated Societies

The fate of Christian minorities in countries like Egypt and Iraq, where they are persecuted, marginalized, or forced to flee, raises questions about the future of religious freedom in the West if Muslim populations become dominant.

4. Political and Legal Changes

In Muslim-majority countries, Islamic law often becomes part of the legal system.

Advocates for mass immigration as well as much of the European media downplay the potential for political changes, but history shows that once Muslims reach a majority, Islamic governance typically follows. See Government & Media Hide Problems with Muslim Immigration to the West.
Conclusion

History demonstrates that Islam does not simply coexist with other cultures when it achieves dominance; rather, it replaces them. The Islamization of formerly Christian nations was not an overnight process but a gradual shift through migration, conquest, and social pressure. Today, Western nations must consider the lessons of history as they grapple with the consequences of large-scale Muslim immigration. The decline of Christianity in its historic homelands serves as a warning: cultural transformation is often irreversible.

The West must ask itself: will history repeat itself?

Looking at the UK, the answer might well be yes. According to this site, there are currently between 30 and 85 Shariah councils in the UK. The website muslimsinbritain.org estimates there are 2,122 mosques and prayer rooms in the UK. And several cities in the UK have or recently have had Muslim mayors. London, which has a Muslim mayor, holds a month-long celebration for Ramadan. For at least the past 10 years, Muslim groomer gangs that recruited, raped, and sometimes even killed little girls, were covered up, and some of the (mostly Pakistani) perpetrators were released, according to the BBC.

With the Islamic community so deeply entrenched, in power and protected, it won’t be easy to make Great Britain a Western power again.

Originally published February 21, 2025. ..."


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Reply #61 - 08/29/26 at 16:31:03
 
Just a short one.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/muslim-brotherhood-s-100-year-p...

"... Muslim Brotherhood’s 100-year plan to undermine US democracy: Report  — Islamists are trying to destroy the United States, according to a 200-page, yearlong report by the Institute for the Study of Global AntiSemitism and Policy.

It says there’s a 100-year plan by a militant Islamist organization with groups in more than 70 countries known as the Muslim Brotherhood, which the U.S. does not list as a terror organization, and they plan to transform Western society from within and destroy democracy.
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The report suggests they are halfway to their goals by infiltrating college campuses, setting up bot and troll accounts that divide Americans, and destroying American institutions.

Earlier this week, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott declared the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council on American Islamic Relations, known as CAIR, as terror organizations. In response, CAIR has sued the state of Texas over the designation. ..."

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Reply #62 - 08/30/26 at 09:16:09
 
Check this one out !

https://icgs.org.il/en/publications/creeping-takeover/

Creeping Takeover: How Islamists Are Shaping the West
Immigration policy and Europe’s open borders have allowed large Muslim communities to accumulate power and raise demands - sometimes challenging local authority. Will the West allow, with its own hands, such a significant change of character, or will it have the tools to confront those who regard Islam as the only true religion?

Over the past decade, many cities and countries in the West have experienced rapid demographic and cultural change, raising difficult questions about identity, security, and local laws. Large numbers of Muslim immigrants entering those countries establish strong communities, demand religious rights, and develop a significant public presence. More than a temporary trend of adaptation, this is a gradual process that alters the face of host countries and provokes not only political disputes but a fundamental debate about the future of the West.

It is interesting to note that most Arab countries around the world fight political Islam and do not allow any party to grow strong enough to make religious law dominant. For example, all those states fought al-Qaeda and the terrorist organization ISIS, which primarily sought to establish an Islamic caliphate and govern countries according to Sharia law. Officially, only one country in the world currently operates under Islamic law: Afghanistan, after the takeover by the Taliban terrorist organization and the withdrawal of the American military.

The war against Islamist organizations—like the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups whose goal is to change the face of those countries—is constant. That was the case in Egypt, Tunisia, and also in the Gulf states, which constantly seek balance and avoid portraying the country with a distinctly Islamic character, so as not to give power and influence to religious figures. For example, regulations limiting the power of the muezzin have been enacted in these and other countries. Yet while Arab states fight Islamization at home, the organizations trying to promote it find fertile ground in Western countries.
"About two years ago, Abdullah Hammoud - a Shiite of Lebanese descent - was elected the first Muslim mayor of Dearborn and immediately appointed a Muslim police chief. One of Hammoud’s first policies was the official recognition of Muslim holidays as paid leave, as well as allowing the public call to prayer (adhan)"

Loyalty to religious law rather than to the host state

A widely held perception among some Muslims is that Islam must lead and rule the world because their religion is the true one and the others are null and void. Thus, they view the world as divided into two: Dar al-Islam—that is, the house of Islam—countries where rule is in the hands of Muslims; and Dar al-Harb—the house of war—a term for the unbelieving countries (bilad al-kufr). These are Western countries where governance is often Christian, and therefore, in their view, Muslims have a duty to fight them and turn them into Islamic states. Furthermore, according to their doctrine, Spain—once conquered by Islam—must return to its embrace, and other Western countries should come under Islamic rule.

How is this done? In recent wars, Muslims have proven unable to even defend their own countries because of dependence on the West, lack of technology and armaments, and other reasons. Therefore, whereas in the distant past Islam expanded through conquests, massacres, forced conversions, and population expulsions, the most effective way now is legally, through demography and democracy, or in one word: immigration.

The host countries, which are, in effect, the targets of this “conquest,” facilitate it in their own way by granting entry visas, European citizenship, and family reunification permits, as well as housing and other financial support for immigrants at the taxpayer’s expense. All of these, alongside economic rights that local citizens sometimes do not even receive, encourage Muslim immigration to Western countries—especially by their youth—and have catalyzed the expansion of the phenomenon over the past twenty years.

Hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants, once settled in Western countries, demand many rights such as building mosques and schools, halal food, and more, and anyone who does not accede to these demands is labeled Islamophobic or anti-Islam. More often than not, Western countries grant all these rights to Muslims, yet the latter’s ultimate loyalty is to their religious laws rather than to the host state. Moreover, once those immigrants become full citizens, they rebel against the very countries that opened their doors and demand the implementation of Islamic laws.

The takeover of the West happens gradually, first by strengthening communities, and it reaches its peak when, on Muslim holidays, immigrants refuse to pray in mosques and instead pray on main roads, in squares and parks to demonstrate strength and power. We are witnessing an increasing number of such events on Fridays and holidays, and this phenomenon has recently become noticeable near churches as well.

Religious and Cultural War: Not Accepting Those Who Are Not Them

About two years ago, Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni stunned many when she declared in an interview that in her view, “there is a problem of compatibility between Islamic culture, or certain interpretations of it, and the rights and values of our civilization.”
This was the first unusual statement by a Western European leader regarding Islam and Muslims. Yet on the ground, nothing has changed. Muslim communities in Western countries—mainly in Britain, France, and Germany—are thriving, as are those in large parts of the U.S. and Canada, where rapid demographic growth and noticeable social change are occurring, alongside the expansion of mosques, charities, and cultural visibility. Consistently, the Islamic character is taking over the Christian one.

Do Muslims who arrive in the West respect the laws of host countries as refugees, asylum seekers, or foreign workers? The answer for most of them is negative, and this remains true even after citizenship is granted. Most Muslims see the Quran as a substitute for law, and therefore their loyalty lies with their religion, not with the state and its laws. Moreover, when there is a high concentration of Muslims, demands soon arise to change rules for their sake—for example, to ban the sale of pork or alcohol, to demand designated housing for Muslims, and more.

Are Muslims capable of living alongside and respecting the freedom of those who do not share their path and values, or in general, the ways of Western life? Doubtful. The World Cup held in Qatar in October 2022 showed us how life is managed in an Islamic state under Islamist rule, even if relatively moderate. There, the authorities banned the sale of alcohol to fans and the sale of pork products, and they did not allow entry to stadiums for anyone wearing clothing linked to Christian symbols or LGBTQ symbols.

The refusal to accept the “other” by many Muslims is a phenomenon that Western countries have suffered from for more than a decade, expressed, among other things, in the burning of hundreds of churches in the past ten years in Europe and Canada. The prevailing assessment is that extremist Muslims burned these churches, since such an act symbolizes war against Christianity. For example, in their battle against the Druze in recent months, Syrian regime forces burned six churches in the Suwayda district.

The war between Muslims and Christians is not new; it was fought during the Crusades more than a thousand years ago. Burning churches was common, and this was a war of culture and domination. It seems that extremist Islam today also seeks to erase every cultural and religious marker that does not belong to it. The famous Umayyad Mosque in Damascus, which Syrians are so proud of, was once a church; the Great Mosque of Aleppo was formerly a Byzantine church; and, of course, the Temple, the holiest site of the Jewish people, was converted into the Al-Aqsa Mosque after Muslims seized it.

Abdullah Hammoud – Mayor of Dearborn, Chicago: “Dearborn has already been dubbed the ‘Jihad Capital of America’”

The discourse on Islamization in Europe and the West raises questions about Islam’s treatment of minorities once it becomes the majority. A clear case study can be found in Dearborn, Michigan, in the U.S., home to one of the largest concentrations of Muslims, who make up more than half of the population (many of them from the Shiite community). Dearborn, which hosts the largest Islamic center in North America, has already earned on social media the nicknames “the Jihad capital of America” or “the Islam capital of America,” partly due to pro-Hezbollah rallies held there. It is also known for its sweeping support of Palestinians and Iranian proxy groups designated as terrorist organizations.

About two years ago, Abdullah Hammoud—a Shiite of Lebanese descent—was elected the first Muslim mayor of Dearborn and immediately appointed a Muslim police chief, Issa Shahin. One of Hammoud’s first policies was the official recognition of Muslim holidays as paid leave, as well as allowing the public call to prayer (adhan).

Recently, the mayor made headlines after clashing with a resident who filed a complaint against his decision to name a city street after a journalist supportive of Hezbollah. Hammoud told the Christian resident, “You are an Islamophobe even though you live here. I want you to know that as a resident, you are not welcome in this city… The day you leave, I will celebrate with a parade in the streets. You are not someone who believes in coexistence but does everything to undermine it.”

These are small glimpses of what happens when extremist Muslims take over a Western city—not to mention mass prayers, violence against women, and against homosexuals. None of this is science fiction or exaggeration. Studies in Europe have proven it, and it is no coincidence that Sweden has been singled out as a place where rapes are especially prevalent as a result of crimes committed by those immigrants against women.

Texas, a state identified with Republicans, decided to take action rather than stand idly by in the face of unfolding reality. Just a few days ago, Governor Greg Abbott signed House Bill 4211, which prohibits the development of the EPIC CITY residential complex, intended to include housing for Muslims along with mosques and schools exclusively for members of the faith.

Governor Abbott explained how those behind the project sought to create an entire “city” open only to Muslims, subjecting everyone who lived there to Sharia law and restricting a landowner’s ability to sell property later. The governor also noted that the legislation he signed protects freedom of religion (“a fundamental value of our great state”) while guarding against efforts to impose Sharia law on Texans forcibly.

Texas has a long history of fighting against Sharia. For example, in 2015, there was a public and governmental debate to issue an injunction against initiatives to apply religious law, following Muslim protests against the sale of pork. In addition, the local government works to preserve an American-Christian character and limit Islamic legislation and practices, unlike in Michigan, where Islam is prominently present in city life.

Recently, Republican Congressman Randy Fine also introduced the “No Sharia” bill, which would ensure that no U.S. court, public agency, or judicial institution could ever enforce or validate Islamic law. In a post on X, Fine wrote that the aim of the law is.


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Reply #63 - 08/30/26 at 10:29:37
 
Just for the NEADDDDDEALBEATAL.

What should be done ?

“there is a problem of compatibility
     between Islamic culture, ...
and the rights and values of our civilization.”


Could be easily said about the coming of people, from accost the sea, in the 1600's. When population of North America really started to grow.
 And when they met the current population, Indians.

BIG deference between the, 'new people', and the indigenous ones.
Big, BIG, BIG difference.

Did the 'new' people say, "No More Warfare among indigenous tribes"
YES
Did the 'new' people say, "No More, Scalping/Killing, the new people"
YES
Did the 'new' people say, "You MUST believe in "THIS ONE GOD"
  NO
Did the 'new' people say, "You must build your homes with Brick"
  NO
Did the 'new' people say, "You must Not do any Dancing/Singing"
  NO
   And on, and On and On and On.
Did any of that happen overnight, or take Several years ?

(YES Virginia, their were, Smarmy, Lying, Cheaters, that were just plain ASS-HOLES, when dealing with the American Indians.
 
JUST AS TODAY, (Their are, Smarmy, Lying, Cheaters, that ARE just plain ASS-HOLES.  (One example, MINN FRAUD)

Now, for the REST of the STORY.

A Person/group, is informed of the customs of this Nation.
AND GIVEN AMPLE TIME TO BECOME A PART OF THIS GREAT NATION !

(two resent events)

One: 'You cannot eat peoples PETS, and can not take/eat any bird/animal/fish, any time you want"

  That took 3 years. That group is now a valuable group of people who are a integral part of the USA.

Another group, given the SAME opportunity.
Have REFUSED to be part of this Nation.
And DEMAND, "BY DEATH",

       That Citizens of THIS nation
      do EXACTLY WHAT that group,
             TELLS YOU TO DO.
















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Reply #64 - 08/30/26 at 13:21:22
 
"Did the 'new' people say, "No More Warfare among indigenous tribes"
YES"  --- That's a LIE. The "new" people actively encouraged tribes to fight other tribes. Pawnee, Apache, and Crow ere some of them that allied with the US soldiers. (Look it up.)

Did the 'new' people say, "No More, Scalping/Killing, the new people"
YES"  --- That's a LIE. Scalping was actually TAUGHT the Native Americans by "Indian Fighters" who started scalping the natives they had killed to prove their claims for the bounty money. Natives didn't do that before the whites came. Also, the natives that took up scalping didn't remove the entire scalp; they took a piece, called a "scalp lock", often leaving the loser alive, which as more of a coup than actually killing the enemy. (Look it up--- don't believe Hollywood "westerns".)

Did the 'new' people say, "You MUST believe in "THIS ONE GOD"
 NO  --- That's a LIE.  The Spaniards, who took over South America, Central America, and MOST of the continental US purposely stamped out native religion in favor of "Christianity". Natives were tortured and murdered for refusing. Even the US effectively did the same thing by building "reservation schools" where native kids were isolated from their own cultures and forced to practice "Christianity". (Look it up. Historically, "Christians" always kill non-Christians.)



Evolution demands outgrowing religion by most of the human race.

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Reply #65 - 08/30/26 at 16:13:36
 
Just For Needles.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

https://www.oldwest.org/origins-of-scalping/

The Origins of Scalping: A True and Surprising History

Last updated March 12, 2026

Native Americans may have invented scalping, but European contact accelerated it, and the history behind scalping is culturally complex.

The idea that Native Americans routinely and viciously scalped their enemies is a common perception that holds to the present.
Historical accounts have given strength to this belief.


- - - - -
https://www.britannica.com/topic/scalping

"... Archaeological evidence for such practices in North America dates to at least the early 14th century; ...  ... Although historical and archaeological records from the 16th and 17th centuries do not clarify how widespread the practice of scalping was in North America before colonial contact, it is clear that bounties on scalps, together with aggression between colonizers and indigenous peoples, increased the level of scalping as North America was colonized by Europeans. ..."


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"Last updated March 12, 2026"

Trumpedo's whitewashed fake "history" is not reality.
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Reply #67 - 08/31/26 at 05:15:33
 
The truth is the Zionists are just as bad as the Muslim radicals.

"Christians" love Jews because that's who they derived their mythology from. They hate Muslims because, in their minds, the Muslims descended from Christianity, but don't acknowledge that. If Muslims claimed to be an offshoot of Christianity, there would be much less disagreement.
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Reply #68 - 08/31/26 at 07:48:27
 
Needles wrote on 08/31/26 at 04:40:47:
"...whitewashed fake "history" is not reality.


So does that mean
you are NOT in favor of:

"... infiltrating college campuses,
setting up bot and troll accounts that divide Americans,
and destroying American institutions..."


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Reply #69 - 08/31/26 at 08:42:55
 
It means your posts are not worth arguing over. You're a MAGAT--- same as a lemming--- marching happily to your own death.
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Reply #70 - 08/31/26 at 12:02:21
 
Needles wrote on 08/31/26 at 08:42:55:
"... your posts are not worth arguing ove. You're a MAGAT--- "


Well, that,s the the way you feel.

I feel that 98.74% of your posts are
Made Up LIES.

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Reply #71 - 08/31/26 at 14:11:45
 
And yet, you feel compelled to defend yourself with full page, TLDR rants without references, attempting to explain away the MAGAT idiocy you KNOW inside you is wrong.

You should just post that you are afraid of Muslims, "socialists", DEI, WOKE, etc.,  and leave it at that.
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Reply #72 - 08/31/26 at 15:25:14
 
Needles wrote on 08/31/26 at 14:11:45:
"...  full page, TLDR rants without references, ..."


Apparently you are not intelligent enough to understand,
when you see a line of text, (LIKE BELOW),
that IS THE REFERENCE !

https://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1783616082;action=post2


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Odd, that "reference" link goes to a blank page...

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Needles wrote on 09/01/26 at 05:18:00:
Odd, that "reference" link goes to a blank page...  


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A different color and the "https" means.
  A Reference to something !

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