“ Iran was trying to use the North Korean model to get a nuke: create sufficient conventional deterrence so you won’t be challenged in acquiring one (it’s called the Seoul Hostage Problem).

This has been explained over and over since day one.

Everyone claiming shifting goalposts or no imminent threat has been lying.

The reason North Korea was allowed to get nukes is because Seoul (and its 10 million inhabitants) is within artillery and rocket range of North Korea.

During the 1994 nuclear crisis, the Clinton administration seriously considered airstrikes on North Korea’s Yongbyon reactor but backed off precisely because of the artillery threat to Seoul.

Iran was trying to accomplish the same by stockpiling missiles and drones which would have had the same deterrent effect. The proof is what Iran has been doing in the past month: attacking all its neighbors in order to pressure the US to stop attacking it

Beyond this, they were building medium-range ballistic missiles that could reach Paris and London, meaning all of Europe could be held hostage as they built a nuclear bomb.

The reason Iran has not built a nuclear weapon until now is not because it couldn’t, but because it knew it would be attacked and denied this capability.

So by allowing them to continue developing this conventional deterrence, you would be allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon.

And unlike North Korea, Iran is led by an eschatological death cult

Reagan saw nuclear mutually assured destruction (MAD) as both morally bankrupt (because of the innocent-body-count problem) and dangerously fragile because it assumed flawless rationality between adversaries…this means it only takes one irrational actor to destroy the world.

Working backwards from the conclusion that Iran’s Islamist regime must never have a nuclear weapon, it was necessary for the US to attack Iran to deny it the conventional capacity to hold the entire eastern hemisphere hostage.

Every European leader knows this and behind the scenes praises the US for this action. But they are cowards, held hostage by their own internal Muslim populations, and so adopt these ridiculous public positions.

This was never about Israel. And if your argument is that Iran should be allowed to get a nuclear weapon then you are a fool and a traitor to western civilization…you’re a useful idiot.”

Mark, maybe they used the same method to acquiring these weapons but I think for different reason.

Those in Iran believe it is their duty to bring the entire world into their theocracy, which, much like God and Noah, required the mass destruction of the world, do to it being unsalvageable with such sin and corruption.  

I believe those who wrote our Constitution saw the reality of what a theocracy is capable of, and included the separation of church and state.

But sadly folks interpret it to their own likings today.....    

zevenenergie wrote on Today at 07:31:15:


First off, I didn’t write this, I posted it from elsewhere.

But I stand by the point which is to imagine the difference if Iran had a nuke? Every President says Iran can’t be allowed to become a nuclear power for a reason.

What is the danger:  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_y0tft484a0
What is the illusion: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DI4Ph3b2xIA
What is the result: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y7WELBGm268