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Reply #15 - Yesterday at 16:05:59
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 14:58:15:
Eegore, I think my English is not sufficient to clearly understand what you are actually saying.Or where you stand in the discussion.
Can you clarify?


 The "draft" in the US is something that is regularly brought up to exaggerate the impacts of any overseas conflict the US engages in.
It is late here in the Netherlands, so I’ll do it this way. I understand your point about the draft, but it strikes me that you call it a conflict abroad. I find that an understatement. America is at war with Iran, and Iran is a very difficult country to attack on foot. And Iran is not a small country like the Gaza Strip. Iran is about 4,500 times the size of the Gaza Strip. It is not enclosed between Israel and the sea but has allies all around and the support of Russia and China.

 The "draft" would require an astronomical reduction in the US military to happen.  There hasn't been one since 1972 and recruitment in the US military is exceeding goals.

 Iran is vey, very unlikely to be able to put up a level of resistance that would require the "draft" or conscription of US citizens.  But it is a good tool to try to get people to think the war is bad. Well.... they might be right.


 Not unlike falsely claiming Israel is making a law to hang "every" Palestinian.  Not true, but it is a good argument to lie about to maybe get a few people to think Israel is unreasonable by using false information.
A few people?Make no mistake, Eegore. Outside of America and Israel, everyone thinks that America and Israel are completely wrong in their decision to attack Iran. The entire world economy is turned upside down. I live in the area in the Netherlands where food is produced in greenhouses, and I already hear entrepreneurs here talking about severe food shortages this coming winter.

That means sky-high food prices.

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Reply #16 - Today at 03:43:18
 
Let’s assume the cause/effect predictions in the article below are true and by the way, they pretty much mirror the fears zeven has mentioned.

https://archive.is/vzBPJ#selection-2353.25-2353.37

Isn’t this a reason for the nations to come together and replace the Iranian government?
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Reply #17 - Today at 08:22:48
 
No. The peculiar thing about a sovereign country is that it is sovereign, so you cannot simply change the government to one that suits you better.

It is also the case that the situation described in the link arose AFTER the attack on Iran. So from that, you can see that you cannot just do something like that.

According to you, what was the reason why America invaded Iran?
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Reply #18 - Today at 10:12:46
 
This right here:  

A few people?Make no mistake, Eegore. Outside of America and Israel, everyone thinks that America and Israel are completely wrong in their decision to attack Iran. The entire world economy is turned upside down. I live in the area in the Netherlands where food is produced in greenhouses, and I already hear entrepreneurs here talking about severe food shortages this coming winter.

I feel like this is a perfect example of what this world has succumbed to, intellectually, and dialogue runs a risk of just wasting your time trying to engage others.

Just a quick glance and you see a person who lives neither in America, Israel, OR..... the rest of the world, yet makes an absolute proclamation that EVERYONE thinks the same as regard to HIS beliefs, that the conflict in the middle east is wrong.

Then to top it off he says his food chain will/might be impacted by what is transpiring because of America and Israel.

Yes, we all have to eat, but maybe he might extend that same "right" to others who might be concerned with their welfare, by those who chant "Death to America" or "From the river to the seas" maybe?
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