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Reply #255 - 08/01/26 at 10:21:00
 

NAFTA
was signed into law by President
Bill Clinton


 Impossible because Clinton never once did anything "bad" for the "average" US citizen.  Everything he did was 100% beneficial for all.
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Reply #256 - 08/01/26 at 10:22:00
 

Although I disagree with you, politically, I can't help but say "nice Job"

 So you don't agree with policy over person?
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Reply #257 - 08/01/26 at 11:06:54
 
Needles wrote on 07/30/26 at 13:14:15:
"... also had advanced dementia..."


From your posts, it is apparent
  someone else ALSO has
  advanced dementia.


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #258 - 08/01/26 at 13:20:49
 
NAFTA was good for the country, and didn't harm any working Amerians. Also, MAGATs ought to thank Bill Clinton--- thanks to his conservatism, aka "Neo-liberalism", the Democrats moved from centrist to right leaning, and that's what let the right move to the extreme, fascist right where they are today, even though it's caving in on them.
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Reply #259 - 08/01/26 at 13:42:10
 

NAFTA was good for the country, and didn't harm any working Amerians.

Just another way to not answer the question, eh, Needles?

What are your acceptable parameters?  You are avoiding this so you can just keep saying there is no proof.  


You willing to provide the proof that you demand from others?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1462901120313666

https://clacs.berkeley.edu/trade-nafta-paradox

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounders/naftas-economic-impact
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Reply #260 - 08/01/26 at 16:00:23
 
Trump referred to President Zelenskyy as "President Putin"
He confused Japan with Iran

What if Biden had done that?


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Reply #261 - 08/01/26 at 18:24:31
 
Needles wrote on 08/01/26 at 13:20:49:
NAFTA was good for the country, and didn't harm any working Amerians... "


"... Clinton championed and secured congressional ratification of NAFTA in 1993 ..."

YET, "... the agreement originated under Ronald Reagan ..."

How does that work ???
A Hard Core SOCIALIST
Championing Ronald ????

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Reply #262 - 08/02/26 at 06:31:27
 
You can't blame the law for GOP donors' (Billionaires) using it as an excuse to outsource the jobs. That was the corporations. That basically just shows that, like billionaires, trans-national corporations don't give a sh1t about any single country, except for the money they can suck out of them. MAGATs ignore the intent of the law. They just see laws as something to work around. THAT'S the overall problem. Such people are called "outlaws".
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Reply #263 - 08/02/26 at 08:55:15
 
Needles wrote on 08/01/26 at 13:20:49:
NAFTA was good for the country..."



 A  SOCIALIST said:
"... NAFTA was good for the country ..."

Let's say you have a factory.

You have 100 employees, pay them a standard rate, give perks, and they are all happy.
You are making good money, and people in the USA, Mexico, Canada Buy your product.

A new law comes into in play,

You examine the things you can do.

You find out, you can lower the price for the thing you make, to Canada, Mexico, USA,  and make MORE money.

All you ave to do is:
Make that item in Canada or Mexico,
using labor from that Country.

What are you going to do ?

Make the same money, and sell for the same high amount ?
  OR
Make more money, and sell it for LESS money ?
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Reply #264 - 08/02/26 at 10:07:31
 

You can't blame the law for GOP donors' (Billionaires) using it as an excuse to outsource the jobs.

 Using that logic we can't blame the Trump tax changes for companies capitalizing on optional tax remedies to avoid paying taxes.  They could pay more taxes, but choose not to.

 I know what you hear is "Trump is God" but what everyone else hears is what I actually said.  Nothing about this post supports Trump's disasterous corporate policies.
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Reply #265 - 08/03/26 at 05:42:37
 
Once again, capitalists do whatever the laws allow them to do. That is evidence for the need for regulation AND high taxes.
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Reply #266 - 08/03/26 at 13:23:16
 
Needles wrote on 08/03/26 at 05:42:37:
"... evidence for the need for regulation AND high taxes..."


California Taxes:  One of the HIGHEST, with NO BENEFIT !


Nine states have no individual income tax,
Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming.


       https://the50unitedstates.com/lowest-tax-states


Looks like, people who actually work for a living have the lowest taxes.
And the GIMMIE People, live in States that have HIGH TAXES !

SO, why are the people that WORK and PAY taxes,
GIVING money to the GIMMIE, GIMMIE, GIMMIE, who are to LAZY to work ?

Yes Virginia, there are people that need, AND DESERVE help.
(AND they are NOT THE GIMMIE"S)

Get off your high horse, and open your eyes.



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Reply #267 - 08/05/26 at 05:22:34
 
You know, everything you say about Dems sounds like they are NOT

GIMMEE, GIMMEE, GIMMEE.

Sounds more like the Dems are the :

GIVEE, GIVEE, GIVEE

party--- the one that wants no one to completely fail and will assist them in getting ahead.

The GOP, however, is definitely

GIMMEE, GIMMEE, GIMMEE

and then they give it all to the already rich.
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Reply #268 - 08/05/26 at 05:23:27
 
Psychologically, MAGATs are stuck at the “concrete operational” development stage. Normally, people start to break out of that restriction and into the level of abstract thoughts. That’s the difference between 1+1=2, and a+b=c. ALL conservatives default to the concrete operational stage, because it’s much easier than dealing with the gray areas and nuance incorporated into abstraction. The problem is, by the 5th grade (age 10 or so) really intelligent people move into abstract thinking, while lazy thinkers try to maintain the lower stage. MAGATs DO say and think what Fox or Trumpedo say, because that’s easier than actually thinking through things for themselves. There is very little room for critical thinking at the concrete operational stage: 1+1=2 is a hard fact. That’s why, if you ask a 3rd grader what to do with a man caught stealing bread for his starving family, they’ll mostly say put him in jail, but if you ask the same of, say an 8th or 9th grader, they’ll likely be more lenient, given the circumstances. Lazy thinking is not limited to MAGATs, but they, as a group, cling more to the concrete operational stage than the general public. This also shows why the US reading levels, on average, are roughly 5th grade level. A large part of the US never reads another book without being forced to, after the 6th grade.
Studies have shown that if you take MAGATs and take away Fox and Trumpedo, their biases get much weaker and their thinking becomes more abstract and critical. In that situation, they will actually agree with Obama, Biden, and Clinton on some issues. However, the bigotry re-emerges if they go back to their preferred sources.
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Reply #269 - 08/05/26 at 07:01:10
 

 My experience is that political affiliation and concrete operational methods are not supported by cognitive science.  Psychological research shows that political ideology does not map onto basic Piagetian cognitive development stages in such a rigid way.

 Maybe for expression, I can totally see that given how social media and "news" works.  But not in application.  


 US reading/comprehension levels are closer to 8th grade levels.  54% however read below 6th grade levels.  

https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/2024-2025-literacy-statistics
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